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View Poll Results: What do you use for traces? | |
Plantex CSM/CSM+B
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Tropica Master Grow
|   | 27 | 17.42% | |
Seachem Flourish
|   | 58 | 37.42% | |
Other
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03-27-2006, 03:42 PM
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#1 (permalink)
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Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Geneva, Switzerland
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Plant Points: 65072 | Yes, Flourish and Flourish Trace are two different things. I haven't quite understood the requirement for Flourish Trace, especially given the extremely weak concentration of traces in it.
I use Flourish and Flourish Iron together. Flourish by itself does not provide enough iron.
I'm also in the process of testing TMG on harder water installations because I hear that the TMG chelate may work better than the Seachem gluconate in harder water.
I used CSM+B for about 9 months and then switched to the Flourish and Flourish Iron. I find the Flourish works better for me than CSM+B. |
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03-28-2006, 12:14 PM
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#2 (permalink)
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Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Maple Grove, MN
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iTrader Positive Rating: 100% Plant Points: 17500 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by RTR Other, Flourish. Not Flourish Trace. Two different solutions. | Yeah I realized that after posting but it won't let me edit the questions. |
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08-06-2009, 05:41 PM
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#3 (permalink)
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 33
iTrader Positive Rating: 100% Plant Points: 2550 | Re: What do you use for traces? I use CSM+B as part of my PPS-Pro dosing regime, but also to make my own root tabs. I have since stop dosing the traces element since I am working to reduce iron in the water column as a way to eliminate algae. |
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03-27-2006, 07:00 PM
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#4 (permalink)
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Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Montreal Canada
Posts: 343
Plant Points: 4050 | csm+b cause tis the cheapest. |
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03-27-2006, 07:29 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI. USA
Posts: 576
iTrader Positive Rating: 100% Plant Points: 12305 | I use flourish, flourish iron and csm+b. When my csm+b is gone I probably wont order it again. I appear to get better results(color,shine)from the flourish micros. I haven't tried TMG. I do get heavy precipitation from any iron I use. 1 ml in my 55 gallon will make a white cloud, 10ml. will make the whole tank milky white for 6-8 hrs. I want to try TMG to see if there is a difference. |
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03-28-2006, 02:15 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South Central Idaho, USA
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iTrader Positive Rating: 100% Plant Points: 178534 | Banderbe, I fixed your poll to read "Seachem Flourish" instead of "Seachem Flourish Trace". Hope you don't mind.
I use Flourish (1ml/gal/week) & flourish iron (1/2 ml/gal/week). It seems to work better than CSM+B for me too. |
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03-28-2006, 02:52 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Houston, TX
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Plant Points: 19940 | I'm using ADA STEP series on my small tanks, but still use SeaChem on the big tanks. I used TMG for years too-- and actually I used to have this crazy dosing regimen on big tanks that was SeaChem Flourish, Iron, Potassium, Excel, Nitrogen, phoshorus, TMG, Kent freshwater plant, and DuplaPlant 24 drops. I carried all that crap around with me to every tank-- and dosed them all full stength. Over time I scaled it down to where now it's pretty much just a trace, an iron, and K, and tanks do fine. (ADA equivalent is Step 2, Brighty K, and ECA, w/ occaisional Green Gain after big trimming). |
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03-28-2006, 06:52 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Maple Grove, MN
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iTrader Positive Rating: 100% Plant Points: 17500 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by jsenske I'm using ADA STEP series on my small tanks, but still use SeaChem on the big tanks. I used TMG for years too-- and actually I used to have this crazy dosing regimen on big tanks that was SeaChem Flourish, Iron, Potassium, Excel, Nitrogen, phoshorus, TMG, Kent freshwater plant, and DuplaPlant 24 drops. I carried all that crap around with me to every tank-- and dosed them all full stength. Over time I scaled it down to where now it's pretty much just a trace, an iron, and K, and tanks do fine. (ADA equivalent is Step 2, Brighty K, and ECA, w/ occaisional Green Gain after big trimming). | no need for additional no3 and po4 these days? |
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03-28-2006, 06:51 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Maple Grove, MN
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iTrader Positive Rating: 100% Plant Points: 17500 | Quote: |
Originally Posted by guaiac_boy Banderbe, I fixed your poll to read "Seachem Flourish" instead of "Seachem Flourish Trace". Hope you don't mind.
I use Flourish (1ml/gal/week) & flourish iron (1/2 ml/gal/week). It seems to work better than CSM+B for me too. | No that's good thanks!! |
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03-30-2006, 12:35 PM
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#10 (permalink)
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Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tri-State Area
Posts: 527
Plant Points: 3615 | Flourish and Flourish Iron. I get better results with them than I do with Plantex. |
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