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View Poll Results: What do you use for traces? | |
Plantex CSM/CSM+B
|    | 51 | 30.72% | |
Tropica Master Grow
|    | 27 | 16.27% | |
Seachem Flourish
|    | 64 | 38.55% | |
Other
|    | 24 | 14.46% |  | |
03-27-2006, 02:42 PM
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#11 (permalink)
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Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Geneva, Switzerland
Posts: 2,307
Plant Points: | Yes, Flourish and Flourish Trace are two different things. I haven't quite understood the requirement for Flourish Trace, especially given the extremely weak concentration of traces in it.
I use Flourish and Flourish Iron together. Flourish by itself does not provide enough iron.
I'm also in the process of testing TMG on harder water installations because I hear that the TMG chelate may work better than the Seachem gluconate in harder water.
I used CSM+B for about 9 months and then switched to the Flourish and Flourish Iron. I find the Flourish works better for me than CSM+B. |
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03-27-2006, 06:00 PM
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#12 (permalink)
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Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Montreal Canada
Posts: 343
Plant Points: | csm+b cause tis the cheapest. |
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03-27-2006, 06:29 PM
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#13 (permalink)
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Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Milwaukee, WI. USA
Posts: 576
iTrader Positive Rating: 100% Plant Points: | I use flourish, flourish iron and csm+b. When my csm+b is gone I probably wont order it again. I appear to get better results(color,shine)from the flourish micros. I haven't tried TMG. I do get heavy precipitation from any iron I use. 1 ml in my 55 gallon will make a white cloud, 10ml. will make the whole tank milky white for 6-8 hrs. I want to try TMG to see if there is a difference. |
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03-28-2006, 11:14 AM
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#14 (permalink)
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Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Maple Grove, MN
Posts: 728
iTrader Positive Rating: 100% Plant Points: | Quote: |
Originally Posted by RTR Other, Flourish. Not Flourish Trace. Two different solutions. | Yeah I realized that after posting but it won't let me edit the questions. |
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03-28-2006, 01:15 PM
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#15 (permalink)
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Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: South Central Idaho, USA
Posts: 4,330
iTrader Positive Rating: 100% Plant Points: | Banderbe, I fixed your poll to read "Seachem Flourish" instead of "Seachem Flourish Trace". Hope you don't mind.
I use Flourish (1ml/gal/week) & flourish iron (1/2 ml/gal/week). It seems to work better than CSM+B for me too. |
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03-28-2006, 01:52 PM
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#16 (permalink)
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Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 1,041
Plant Points: | I'm using ADA STEP series on my small tanks, but still use SeaChem on the big tanks. I used TMG for years too-- and actually I used to have this crazy dosing regimen on big tanks that was SeaChem Flourish, Iron, Potassium, Excel, Nitrogen, phoshorus, TMG, Kent freshwater plant, and DuplaPlant 24 drops. I carried all that crap around with me to every tank-- and dosed them all full stength. Over time I scaled it down to where now it's pretty much just a trace, an iron, and K, and tanks do fine. (ADA equivalent is Step 2, Brighty K, and ECA, w/ occaisional Green Gain after big trimming). |
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03-28-2006, 05:51 PM
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#17 (permalink)
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Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Maple Grove, MN
Posts: 728
iTrader Positive Rating: 100% Plant Points: | Quote: |
Originally Posted by guaiac_boy Banderbe, I fixed your poll to read "Seachem Flourish" instead of "Seachem Flourish Trace". Hope you don't mind.
I use Flourish (1ml/gal/week) & flourish iron (1/2 ml/gal/week). It seems to work better than CSM+B for me too. | No that's good thanks!! |
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03-28-2006, 05:52 PM
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#18 (permalink)
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Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Maple Grove, MN
Posts: 728
iTrader Positive Rating: 100% Plant Points: | Quote: |
Originally Posted by jsenske I'm using ADA STEP series on my small tanks, but still use SeaChem on the big tanks. I used TMG for years too-- and actually I used to have this crazy dosing regimen on big tanks that was SeaChem Flourish, Iron, Potassium, Excel, Nitrogen, phoshorus, TMG, Kent freshwater plant, and DuplaPlant 24 drops. I carried all that crap around with me to every tank-- and dosed them all full stength. Over time I scaled it down to where now it's pretty much just a trace, an iron, and K, and tanks do fine. (ADA equivalent is Step 2, Brighty K, and ECA, w/ occaisional Green Gain after big trimming). | no need for additional no3 and po4 these days? |
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03-30-2006, 11:35 AM
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#19 (permalink)
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Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Tri-State Area
Posts: 529
Plant Points: | Flourish and Flourish Iron. I get better results with them than I do with Plantex. |
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04-04-2006, 10:20 AM
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#20 (permalink)
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Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Central Alabama
Posts: 161
Plant Points: | CSM+B, mainly because in starting out I could get all the ferts from one place. I'm thinking about trying Flourish though. |
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