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View Poll Results: What do you use for traces?
Plantex CSM/CSM+B 48 30.38%
Tropica Master Grow 27 17.09%
Seachem Flourish 60 37.97%
Other 23 14.56%
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Old 04-13-2006, 07:02 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I was thinking of their product called "Fresh Trace" when you said Flourish Trace...didn't realize they had one for the planted tank. Here is the Guaranteed Analysis of both Flourish and Flourish Trace. From what I can tell the only things Flourish Trace have that Flourish does not is Rubidium, Nickel, and Vanadium which are pretty obscure traces IMO. These elements are so insignificant in the larger scheme of things that I think it would be hard to justify the cost or hassle of dosing Flourish trace. If the plants need these elements at all it would be a very little bit and most likely all one would need would be in the tap water unless someone is using straight RO water for some reason.

Guaranteed Analysis (Flourish trace)
Boron (B)
0.0028%
Cobalt (Co)
0.00003%
Copper Cu)
0.0032%
0.0032% Soluble Copper (Cu)
Manganese (Mn)
0.085%
0.0085%Soluble Manganese(Mn)
Molybdenum (Mo)
0.0003%
Zinc (Zn)
0.0169%
0.0169% Soluble Zinc (Zn)
Rubidium (Rh)
0.000008%
Nickel (Ni)
0.000003%
Vanadium (V)
0.000002%

Guaranteed Analysis (Flourish)Total Nitrogen
0.07%
Available Phosphate ( P2O5)
0.01%
Soluble Potash
0.37%
Calcium (Ca)
0.14%
Magnesium (Mg)
0.11%
Sulfur (S)
0.2773%
Boron (B)
0.009%
Chlorine (Cl)
1.15%
Cobalt (Co)
0.0004%
Copper (Cu)
0.0001%
Iron (Fe)
0.32%
Manganese (Mn)
0.0118%
Molybdenum (Mo)
0.0009%
Sodium (Na)
0.13%
Zinc (Zn)
0.0007%
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Old 04-15-2006, 03:58 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I prefer TMG than Flourish. I had excellent results with both but the former seems to redden my redplants most. Unfortunately I was not able to find the list of traces and macros (if any) in the Tropica master grow. If anyone has a link or could help I will appreciate a lot.
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Old 04-15-2006, 06:50 AM   #33 (permalink)
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If you open (peel back) the cover of the little booklet on the bottle, it states the ingredients on the inside cover. Don't have one with me at the moment so can't list them...
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Thanks Laith. I thought of listing them since there is the analysis of Flourish so that it would be easier to compare:

Tropica Master Grow Analysis:

Potassium (K) 0.79%

Magnesium (Mg) 0.39%

Sulfur (S) 1.01%

Boron (B) 0.004%

Copper (Cu) 0.006%

Iron (Fe) 0.07%

Manganese (Mn) 0.04%

Molybdenum (Mo) 0.002%

Zinc (Zn) 0.002%

Chelators: HEEDTA, DTPA and E123
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Thanks for listing.
Looks like TMG has a decent potassium dose
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Default Re: What do you use for traces?

I use CSM+B as part of my PPS-Pro dosing regime, but also to make my own root tabs. I have since stop dosing the traces element since I am working to reduce iron in the water column as a way to eliminate algae.
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I voted csm +b b/c I have a 100 gallon tank and its cheap enough with my EI dosing.
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