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Old 04-07-2007, 02:04 PM   #131 (permalink)
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Thanks Ekliwoah and Gill--

BTW-- Gill, you're still using that avatar I drew for you? That seems like ages ago! Actually, I like where your scapes are going-- still rough on technique, but they have a good and strong impression.
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Old 04-07-2007, 02:20 PM   #132 (permalink)
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Thanks Ekliwoah and Gill--

BTW-- Gill, you're still using that avatar I drew for you? That seems like ages ago! Actually, I like where your scapes are going-- still rough on technique, but they have a good and strong impression.
Yeah, i still use that one from time to time, Yeah Still very Rough Scapes. But i manage with what i have.
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Old 04-07-2007, 02:43 PM   #133 (permalink)
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Steven - you actually achieved - only by opening the foreground on the right - to make me feel like looking at a bambooforest with the stems showing on the right. Good with the moss at the bottom. I just watched a film with ninjas in a bambooforest - and i thought of your scape...

I think its good that you are so bold and daring - it opens up so many possibilities...
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Old 04-07-2007, 03:02 PM   #134 (permalink)
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Steven you conviction in the scape is a good thing, as I said I can see what you doing, I certainly don't think it's smoke and mirrors, although too much editing can do that, but if we are keeping it real, I think the opening to the right is too extreme. You went from a very dense patch to nothing. The right front now against the dense canopy is distracting to the focal point. I believe it was a good move to remove some of the foreground, but don't you need some of the glosso and lower cover over there.
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Old 04-07-2007, 03:36 PM   #135 (permalink)
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I'm replacing all the immediate foreground plants with HC, just out of curiosity . . . and having HC lying around . . .
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even the riccia?? how about Hc and riccia?
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Oh sorry-- I meant only the most immediate foreground-- I'll leave about the back inch of riccia and plant HC in front of it.
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Old 04-09-2007, 09:16 AM   #138 (permalink)
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Any newer pics? I'm guessing that some trimming (especially center, left sections) would make a significant improvement over the 4/6 pic (reveal a little more of the DW & rock).

Looking very good overall!
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the progress of the tank is great and the new look is much more better then the older scape , but i find that there is so many contradictory with what you say in here compared to the other post you've made. Yes, you are paving new road but you've mention "you'll find that we don't belive "beauty is in the eye of the beholder here." We're very adamant about there being varying degrees of excellence in art, to which we aspire."

i find that it completely contradict this statement "Besides which, artists are generally a different breed of people mentally-- very few people have the bravery to break the mold, and self-belief to take the criticism that is unavoidable if one truly is a growing artists who's not a slave to the current styles."

then here's a statement that made me think a lot, espciasiclally after reading this thread. "You make your own style, but people in general, excellence in general, is not decided by you alone."
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Old 04-09-2007, 12:55 PM   #140 (permalink)
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Steven, when I first saw this scape on the AE forum I didn`t like it, probably because I couldn`t see where it could possibly go in its early days. Then, after a point, for me it arrived at wherever it was going and I thought it was truly fantastic. All became clear to me.

Then, very much to my surprise, the journey continued on to its current development, but I have found myself left behind. You clearly had a better vision than me and I just hope that I can catch up again appreciate this latest scape.

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Besides which, artists are generally a different breed of people mentally-- very few people have the bravery to break the mold, and self-belief to take the criticism that is unavoidable if one truly is a growing artists who's not a slave to the current styles.
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This statement is also relevant to many a great scientist, Steven. Art and science are not so different.

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