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Old 02-02-2008, 11:51 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Yes, Iron....they are indeed plantlets! You are a Daddy, now!
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Old 02-09-2008, 07:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I saw your post on the Barr report, I think what Tom was trying to say was remove the spray bar and point it at the C02 diffuser. That way you would be misting all the plants with C02. Now that you are running the C02 right into the canister intake I'd probably put the spray bar back on (like you had it before) and point the outlet toward the front of the tank, pointing down slightly. This will help circulate the C02 rich water throughout the tank.

I don't see any fish in the tank, you might want to consider adding some shrimp to help combat the algae that is forming on the HC. You could also try the addition of some flourish excel to the tank, that has helped my HC a lot in the past. My only warning is that not all plants love excel, might want to do a quick search and make sure all your plants will do well with it.
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Old 03-09-2008, 08:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Last time I looked at this thread you had the C02 piped directly into the intake for the filter, but from the algae pics I can see that it is back on. You should either move the diffuser under the spray bar and point the spray bar output down 30 or 45 degrees from its current orientation (you should see the C02 bubble blown almost all over the tank), or run the C02 directly into the filter intake w/o the diffuser. That will help get C02 rich water everywhere in the tank.

Did you get a chance to fix the bubble counter leak? If not you might want to do that ASAP, it could cause C02 fluctuations in your tank. I'd scrape all the algae that is left on the glass off, cover the tank and leave the lights off for 2-3 days. After that, do a 50% WC, dose excel and resume your fert regime. That will kill the algae, but you should try and think about what caused the outbreak in the first place. I wouldn't recommend adding any more light to the tank until you have had it set up for a while and things get going. High light tanks are a lot more work, I have 2x55w from AH supply on a 29 gal tank and it is very high maintenance. I'm thinking of cutting back to one bulb.
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Old 02-02-2008, 11:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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mm.. sexy!

so do I just cut them off the stem, or should I leave them on for a while as I just planted this tank like 2 days ago and just started dosing CO2 20 mins ago, and will start dosing ferts tommorrow. (run on sentence).
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Old 02-02-2008, 12:05 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I just counted my bpm and bps:

bpm: 73

bps: about 1 or 2

I don't know if thats good or bad.
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That is a good bubble rate for a 29 gallon, Iron. You can snip off the plantlets just below the roots and replant them, if you want to grow more; if not, leave them on, or cut and throw them away.
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Old 02-06-2008, 12:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
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A little bit of an update:

First, I bought some stems of Red Ludwigia at Petsmart as suggested by people on this board. Things seem to be growing as my Rotala's tips are now a bright green.

But I do have a few concerns:

When I received the Blyxa, it had transparent leaves, those are peeling off and I can now see some healthier looking leaves. I am guessing that this is just a melting stage, right.



My Cyprus Helferi's long leaves are all turning yellow brown, so they are definitly dying, but there are smaller green leaves at the base. I am also guessing that this is just a melting phase, right? Also, on the small baby plantlets, I am getting this white fungi looking stuff on the grain part of the plant.



About Half of my HC plantlets and getting dull and seem like they are dying, but I am not sure. Can someone diagnose this?







I haven't witnessed any pearling yet, so do you think I should turn up the CO2? Another thing about my CO2 is that the diffused bubbles are cling to the water's surface. I don't know if this is good or bad.

On the brighter side of things, here is an FTS:





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Are you dosing enough ferts? Check out the fertilizer sticky.

Am I seeing new growth or am I seeing dying plants? OR - if this is a new tank maybe you are just getting diatoms on your plants -brown stuff and it can smother them. Can the brown stuff brush off or is it actually the plants that are brown?

You could still use quite a bit more plants.
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Your HC is covered in algae because it's not growing and you don't have enough plants to use up the excess nutrients in the water column, it'll start growing once you setup your co2.
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How many days were the plants in there before you got the C02 running? I would crank the C02 up more. Are you still running the lights 8 hours? I wouldn't do less than ten hours. After ten hours you will see more pearling.

The Cyperus is grown emersed which is why it has those stalks with seed/flower pods and baby plants. You do want to remove the pot and the rockwool. At least as much as you can. I would also get some fert tabs to put under the Cyperus and Blyxa. Both the Cyperus and Blyxa will take more time to get acclimated before there is a burst of new growth. The stem plants will react much quicker. The more light and C02 you provide will help the plants get thru the acclimation stage faster. I wouldn't add any ferts to the water until you start to see signs of growth in the stem plants. When the Ludwigia and others start to show aerial roots then they are starting to grow. You could add more fast growing stem plants to help get things going. If you do that, just be sure you move the Blyxa more to the front where it is under direct light. If you have it in an area where it gets covered by taller stem plants, it will never recover and you will loose it for sure.
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