Pinheiro manso - Page 3 - Aquascaping

thief · 04-23-2008, 07:34 PM

FAAO I am a big fan of your tanks. I find the tree look in the tank amazing. I find it wierd how that tree is actually 3 branches. Do you go out in the woods and find pieces? Anyways would this tank be considered iwagami? I love the rocks as the dark grey is perfect. Anyways just wanted to say that you are doing an awesome job. I think making a another tree tank is not a problem it opens doors for other on a whole new way to look at making a nice tank. I hope to recreate something simular in a smaller tank later on.

Tex Gal · 04-23-2008, 08:37 PM

I think this tank is incredible. I love both your tree tanks. I have saved the images just to look at them. You are amazing!

1ALFREDO · 04-23-2008, 09:04 PM

simply fantastic Felip, you are one of my favorites aquascapers

FAAO · 04-24-2008, 02:33 AM

Hi,

Once again, thanks for the comments and compliments!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miron

Unfortunately Felipe wasn´t the first one to use this techinic the 21º in ADA 2001 contest Mr. Jang Kae Fuh create a hole japanese scenery using trees made with many kinds of moss( erect , wepping , flame , etc)

IMHO, we can't compare the both tanks... We're talking about different things!
One thing is to create a scenery using a lot of trees even that they weren't in scale, other thing is use only one tree in a small tank, taking in attention to the proportions and all details.
If you use a lot of objects, even that weren’t well done we’ll see it like a composition and not like a unique piece.
Ok, Mr Jang Kae Fuh did it before, but in a different concept… I don’t know if there are more examples of this kind of layout, I didn’t see nothing like this before…

Quote:

Originally Posted by thief

I find it wierd how that tree is actually 3 branches. Do you go out in the woods and find pieces?

The tree was made with 3 standalone branches, is quite different!
I cut 3 standalone branches in small parts and joined in one piece.
I used Red moorwood to do the tree and I bought it in a shop.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thief

Anyways would this tank be considered iwagami? I love the rocks as the dark grey is perfect.

Iwagumi?! NO! Do you know what is an Iwagumi?
This layout can be classified by landscape... Ok... I have used rocks, but it never could be called Iwagumi!

Cheers,

Filipe Oliveira

T-Bone · 04-24-2008, 04:13 AM

Quote:

IMHO, we can't compare the both tanks... We're talking about different things!
One thing is to create a scenery using a lot of trees even that they weren't in scale, other thing is use only one tree in a small tank, taking in attention to the proportions and all details.
If you use a lot of objects, even that weren’t well done we’ll see it like a composition and not like a unique piece.
Ok, Mr Jang Kae Fuh did it before, but in a different concept… I don’t know if there are more examples of this kind of layout, I didn’t see nothing like this before…

I agree with this statement completely. One is a representation of a landscape. The other is like underwater bonsai, and a little bit of Suiseki.

Suiseki; Suiseki are small, naturally formed stones admired for their beauty and for their power to suggest a scene from nature or an object closely associated with nature. Among the most popular types of suiseki (pronounced suu-ee-seck-ee) are those that suggest a distant mountain, a waterfall, an island, a thatched hut, or an animal.

Actually a better word to use is, "bonsai zokai" which is the art of making "artificial" bonsai. Instead of using a real whole plant, and turning it into a representation of a larger tree. Bonsai zokai, uses artifitial elements to represent the same thing. I realize I'm getting way too technical. I'll stop now.

thief · 04-24-2008, 08:28 AM

Quote:

Iwagumi?! NO! Do you know what is an Iwagumi?
This layout can be classified by landscape... Ok... I have used rocks, but it never could be called Iwagumi!

Cheers,

Filipe Oliveira

Lol well I know that iwagami is the positioning of rocks and creating a pleasing landscape while having a field effect. I consider myself a real noob for saying that. But It just has that open window feel to the tank which made me ask. lol Anyways I only have 1-2.5 gallon planted tank that is an iwagami style. Other than that I do know know how to define.

Paul Higashikawa · 04-24-2008, 12:09 PM

FYI for those who don't know, Filipe was featured in the Jan 2008 Aquajournal. In his interview, if you can read Japanese, he talked about his philosophy in planted tanks as well as other aspects of art. Very nice interview. I definitely learned a great deal

jlui83 · 04-25-2008, 07:15 AM

Did the wood come like that? or did you have to glue the peieces together? Please explain.

Thanks!

ricardobrosa · 04-26-2008, 01:38 AM

Olá Filipe,

Esse está um espanto, melhor que o syrah talvez por causa da utriculária.. parece que estas num dia de vento naqueles montes alentejanos e o trigo está "penteado" todo na mesma direcção, muito bonito.. mas.. é igual ao outro.

Abraço

OperJeff · 04-27-2008, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Bone

I agree with this statement completely. One is a representation of a landscape. The other is like underwater bonsai, and a little bit of Suiseki.

Suiseki; Suiseki are small, naturally formed stones admired for their beauty and for their power to suggest a scene from nature or an object closely associated with nature. Among the most popular types of suiseki (pronounced suu-ee-seck-ee) are those that suggest a distant mountain, a waterfall, an island, a thatched hut, or an animal.

Actually a better word to use is, "bonsai zokai" which is the art of making "artificial" bonsai. Instead of using a real whole plant, and turning it into a representation of a larger tree. Bonsai zokai, uses artifitial elements to represent the same thing. I realize I'm getting way too technical. I'll stop now.

Ive always seen this connection, but im surprised that this is the first time Ive seen the association actually mentioned. I guess it takes an example as stunning as FAAO's to start the comparison.

If you look at alot of the other aquascapes, including some Iwagumi layouts you can easily find alot of similarities with chinese penjing also. "bonsai zokai" is the most accurate comparison to this aquascape.

FAAO do you have experience with the art of bonsai? im going to assume so since you have a very good sense of how to miniaturize your creation.