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Old 11-21-2010, 03:10 PM   #21 (permalink)
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yea, definitely not usteraina. I had usteraina at one point in time that was ID by Kai. The one I had was bright green and it was not the dark green/red. leaves are more retangular than oval on usteraina.

If you look around in the crypt sub forum and the AGA forum, you can find people with all sorts of rare crypts in the States. I just can't bring them into Canada without the hassle of paperwork and permits...

Cvurb: Did you meant the photo from HeyPK?

Does Kai still come on this forum?

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Old 11-21-2010, 07:35 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Hmm, I don't know a kai lol. I wish I was loaded, then I would have huge tanks dedicated to crypts, submersed and emmersed. I hope that someday I'll have greenhouse that has a humidity of around 80%. Then I'd make a little rainforest of exotic plants, and have a pond in there too. But alas I dream, mostly cause I'm a kid, when I have my own house Ill do this lol
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Old 11-21-2010, 08:33 PM   #23 (permalink)
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You can find C. affinis being sold on Aquabid for $7.99 by Aquaticmagic, located in Malaysia. However, in the U.S. it is illegal to order it without getting the necessary phytosanitary certificate for importing.
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Does anyone know anything about this website? Is it reliable? The crypts seem really cheap...

http://www.pets-warehouse.com/vpasp/...d.asp?id=95167
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Old 11-21-2010, 09:25 PM   #25 (permalink)
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The owner of PetsWarehouse, Robert Novak, has sued a number of aquarists for allegedly slandering his business on The Aquatic Plants Digest. These suits have stretched on for many years because of legal maneuvering by Mr. Novak. Some of the defendants have had to settle out of court because they could not afford the expenses of defending themselves. Novak has many suits going. You can find out about some of them at "Aquarists and the Law", a forum on the Pets Forums http://www.thepetsforums.com/forums/...c&daysprune=-1.
I ordered once from him and had some problems because the order was only partially filled, and he kept trying to bill me for the entire order, even after two telephone conversations. I had ordered on a credit card, and I got the credit card company to send him my payment for the plants I received. I eventually got a receipt and there was no more problem. The plants were in good quantity and arrived in good condition. I believe Mr. Novak gets his plants from Oriental Aquarium in Singapore.
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You can find C. affinis being sold on Aquabid for $7.99 by Aquaticmagic, located in Malaysia. However, in the U.S. it is illegal to order it without getting the necessary phytosanitary certificate for importing.
Hahaha I ordered a crypt from them once (I think it was Balansae) after like two months in my tank it didn't grow, so I emailed them and they sent me another, but border patrol got it And then they started ignoring me... haha

A GREAT place for crypts is Sweet Aquatics! They give great crypts, and if you can, get the bunches of them, you will get like 5x more than just getting one (Which is two or three) and their anubiases are huge, I should post a picture of my tank on here, because it is filled up with their crypts, anubiases (a bit of dwarf sag because it works really well in low light), and Manzanita Driftwood branches.
They just take a little while to process your order, but I think their plants are all submersed too. Great portions

And C. affinis sounds perfect for San Diego because it like hard water lol. I want it soooo badly now!
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I got the affinis in the first photo where it is with Hygrophila polysperma from a pet store in Madison, Wisconisin back around 1964. I don't have it now. I wish I were better at hanging on to plants.

I have affinis that dates back to at least the mid 1960's, maybe even earlier. It has a much more glossy leaf, with bright maroon undersides when in good light. In contrast to my recent import which has much darker leaves with some darker leaf striations. I find the old clone much more difficult to transplant, maybe this is why there are so few about today.

If I could only have one Crypt this would be the one.

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Could you show us a picture?
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Forgive my poor photo, but here goes.

This photo was taken from above..........these plants are growing in very poor light as the aquarium is currently completely covered with giant duckweed.




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Here are mine. C. affinis for sure and very likely the old clone. Only, take a look at the plant on the right of the clump, this one is slightly more robust and brown coloured. I believe that this is a different clone. This plant on the right is the one I obtained some weeks later, from a different source. But it is likely also a clone which is in aquaria for a long time.

I think that the trick to find it is to try to find people who still have it. This means often older people, the kind of guys who have an aquarium in their living room because they can't imagine a living room without it. But not people who check the shops for new things all the time. Aquarium societies are a good starting point. But in my case I found it when I checked small, independent shops which are owned by a single hobbyist. The kind of shops that were standard back then, but which now suffer very heavy competition from the large chains. For affinis, the large chains are not the best place to search, but you never know, maybe you get lucky one day. The point is that such large chain shops don't usually take surplus plants from anyone: they want to have the constant supply and quality that the large nurseries offer.

As I wrote before, I would not think about importing such a plant as a first resort, because it is hard to figure out if it was wild collected and, if so, if this collecting was done sustainable. On the other hand: if a whole stream will anyway disappear under an oil palm estate, I guess that there is no harm in removing all crypts (and fish and whatever else lives there) just before the destruction. Maybe some people will actually wake up and see that there can be something valuable in a natural stream ... I have nothing against wild collecting in principle (all our plants and animals are decendants of wild collected ones ...), it is just that I like to be sure that not whole populations were depleted for my hobby. So if a dealer can inform me how he makes sure that his supplies are not going to the cost of whole populations in nature, I would consider buying. I did not yet find any such info on dealers pages, but perhaps I just didn't find the right ones? I think that a phrase like "very rare, wild collected" should ring some alarmbells. (Unfortunalety, it does also sell ...)
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