Go Back   Aquatic Plant Central > General Interest Forums > DIY Aquarium Projects
User Name
Password

Advertise on APC

DIY Aquarium Projects For those that are handy or looking to save some money, discuss your DIY aquarium projects here.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-02-2007, 10:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
styderman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posts: 128
iTrader Ratings: 0
styderman is a regular member
Plant Points: 9350
Default Can i use copper piping

Setting up a new filter for my tank and the filter is under a cabinet, i need to run hoses or pipe. I figured pvc would be fine but then in notices the 200 feet of various copper pipe sizes in my buddy garage( he's a plumber/pipefitter) Can I use this. will the copper mess up my Water? i gots a planted tank. I think the shiny copper would look better then the ugly white pipe? INPUT PLEASE
styderman is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Advertisement [Remove Advertisement]

Old 08-02-2007, 10:53 AM   #2 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
kunerd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: spring lake park, mn
Posts: 19
iTrader Ratings: 0
kunerd is a regular member
Plant Points: 1150
Default Re: Can i use copper piping

Yes it could mess your water but most people have copper pipes still in thier house and use them with out knowing. Personally PVC is so much easy to work with then copper. PVC you just cement together, copper you have to sweat it and if you dont know how you arent ensured a propper seal.
kunerd is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 10:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
styderman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii
Posts: 128
iTrader Ratings: 0
styderman is a regular member
Plant Points: 9350
Default Re: Can i use copper piping

What type of sealent should I use for the pvc. Is there a specific brand at home depot or some thing else?
styderman is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 11:14 AM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Austin, TX
Posts: 162
iTrader Ratings: 5
iTrader Positive Rating: 100%
ianmoede is a regular member
Plant Points: 12500
Default Re: Can i use copper piping

Go with the purple stuff. Its all the same solvent.
ianmoede is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 11:16 AM   #5 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
kunerd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: spring lake park, mn
Posts: 19
iTrader Ratings: 0
kunerd is a regular member
Plant Points: 1150
Default Re: Can i use copper piping

sure at home depot and most other store you get two bottles. I forget the names. One is a cleaner and one is the cement. They ussualy sell them togher. i know they do at HD i have about 10 sets cause i cant find a set when i need it then i buy anohter one and latter on find them. One is purple and thats the cleaner after you rub that on both pieces you rube the cement on them both, press and sealed up. no hard at all. Just dont spill the purple cleaner on the hard woods floors or the wife will kill ya as did mine.
kunerd is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2007, 01:36 PM   #6 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
hoppycalif's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Sacramento, CA, USA
Posts: 5,208
iTrader Ratings: 20
iTrader Positive Rating: 100%
hoppycalif is a valuable member of the communityhoppycalif is a valuable member of the communityhoppycalif is a valuable member of the community
Plant Points: 227345
Default Re: Can i use copper piping

Copper piping isn't good when the pH is below 7. That's one reason the water companies add stuff to keep the pH higher. At the lower pH the pipe is eroded by the flowing water, which also adds copper ions to the water, and that isn't good for the fish.
hoppycalif is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2007, 02:47 PM   #7 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Arlington, TX
Posts: 22
iTrader Ratings: 0
kimo is a regular member
Plant Points: 4450
Default Re: Can i use copper piping

Quote:
Originally Posted by hoppycalif View Post
Copper piping isn't good when the pH is below 7. That's one reason the water companies add stuff to keep the pH higher. At the lower pH the pipe is eroded by the flowing water, which also adds copper ions to the water, and that isn't good for the fish.
Copper is deadly to invertebrates even in minute doses.
kimo is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2007, 06:49 PM   #8 (permalink)
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 3
iTrader Ratings: 2
iTrader Positive Rating: 100%
negatived is a regular member
Plant Points: 3800
Default Re: Can i use copper piping

The vast majority of people in the U.S. have copper pipes in their house. Even if you have CPVC or PEX piping in your house, your water probably still runs through copper to get to your house. I can't see where this would have any effect on your tank. Maybe, be careful to flush any loose particles initially, but I would think that you would be fine after that. If you do use PVC, I would use the clear cleaner/primer, just because of the chance of staining with the purple cleaner.
negatived is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2007, 08:24 PM   #9 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
hoppycalif's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Sacramento, CA, USA
Posts: 5,208
iTrader Ratings: 20
iTrader Positive Rating: 100%
hoppycalif is a valuable member of the communityhoppycalif is a valuable member of the communityhoppycalif is a valuable member of the community
Plant Points: 227345
Default Re: Can i use copper piping

Copper piping doesn't leach copper into the water if the water is above 7 pH, and public water systems add enough phosphates (I think) to keep the pH always above 7. But, if you used copper pipe in aquarium plumbing, for a CO2 injected tank, you would likely have less than 7 pH water in the piping so you could get copper in the water. It isn't worth the risk.

You can get CPVC piping, which is smaller than PVC, or you can get polyethylene piping, which is gray in color, if you don't like the appearance of PVC for plumbing tank water.
hoppycalif is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2007, 05:34 PM   #10 (permalink)
Member
 
180gz71's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 49
iTrader Ratings: 0
180gz71 is a regular member
Plant Points: 3100
Default Re: Can i use copper piping

Quote:
Originally Posted by hoppycalif View Post
Copper piping isn't good when the pH is below 7. That's one reason the water companies add stuff to keep the pH higher. At the lower pH the pipe is eroded by the flowing water, which also adds copper ions to the water, and that isn't good for the fish.
Quote:
Originally Posted by hoppycalif View Post
Copper piping doesn't leach copper into the water if the water is above 7 pH, and public water systems add enough phosphates (I think) to keep the pH always above 7. But, if you used copper pipe in aquarium plumbing, for a CO2 injected tank, you would likely have less than 7 pH water in the piping so you could get copper in the water. It isn't worth the risk.

You can get CPVC piping, which is smaller than PVC, or you can get polyethylene piping, which is gray in color, if you don't like the appearance of PVC for plumbing tank water.
Fully agree, it basically depends on the ph of the setup. If at or above 7ph technically ok, but I still wouldnt use. Besides, pvc isnt real expensive and alot safer. thats my 2.5cents
180gz71 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Aquatic Plant Central > General Interest Forums > DIY Aquarium Projects > Can i use copper piping

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:55 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0

Copyright © 2006 - 2009 Aquatic Plant Central | About Aquatic Plant Central | Advertising Opportunities | Legal | A member of the Crowdgather Forum Community
Created by Blue Moose Designs