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Old 12-24-2007, 08:37 AM   #11 (permalink)
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You could put a relief valve on the barrel you are making wine in, so the maximum pressure that would build up in the barrel would be too low to harm anything, but high enough to push CO2 through a diffuser in the tank. Then you could control the CO2 going to the tank with a needle valve. This is beginning to be as expensive a setup as pressurized CO2, but with wine to drink later.
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Old 12-24-2007, 09:49 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Good points, gotcheaprice and hoppycalif. It's starting to get a bit complex, though!

I think I'll continue to keep brewing and aquariums separate for now.
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Old 12-24-2007, 11:48 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Hehe, yeah, might as well just start up a pressurized set up xD
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Old 12-24-2007, 12:25 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Switch to making champagne. Champagne yeast can withstand 22% alcohol concentration. You'll get stronger booze and the bottle will last longer. Unless you can get the sam adams utopia yeast which can tolerate 40% then I'd say switch to beer. :P
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Old 12-24-2007, 08:39 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Switch to making champagne. Champagne yeast can withstand 22% alcohol concentration. You'll get stronger booze and the bottle will last longer. Unless you can get the sam adams utopia yeast which can tolerate 40% then I'd say switch to beer. :P
ur thinking of 48 proof which is 24% alcohol. I use to work at a beer distributor and was blessed to try some of the worlds best craft beer including a bottle of utopia which is pure awesome.

i am just using bakers yeast beacuse i have no local access to beer, wine, or chapagne yeast.

this is basically my recipe,

http://www.warpbreach.com/6/6.html

so u see, its a really cheap wine that does taste better than the cheap wine u can buy in the stores.

there is one thing though, Duvel is this awesome beer that has a special Belgian yeast that can with stand alcohol at least at 10% and higher. i still have a good bottle and all i have to do is take the yeast at the bottle. i know its dead but theres still some alive which i can use to culture and use for my co2 reactor and ta da! Belgian yeast wine! although that might taste pretty bad


hoppycalif, i don't think need a relief valve because its only a gallon containter. but whats this needle valve? it only works in combination with the relief valve?

so far, im going to get a drop checker, a ph test kit, a proper diffuser, and a bubble counter.

what do u guys think about these? I have a 29 gallon tank

http://cgi.ebay.com/Brand-New-Drop-C...sid=p1638.m122

don't know if this is the right size for me, all sizes say for 55 gal tanks

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-2-CO2-Dif...QQcmdZViewItem

trying to find a cheap ph and hardness kit, this is a tank for CRS, and i already made a bubble counter. i had to make a bigger one since i need this water to absorb any of the extra organic compounds from the wine

I promise to get some pictures when im done setting up!!
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Old 12-25-2007, 08:22 AM   #16 (permalink)
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The reason for the needle valve is to be able to control how much CO2 goes into the aquarium water. But, if you restrict the CO2 flow from the wine barrel you also build up some pressure in the barrel, so you would need a relief valve to avoid damaging the barrel. However, if the amount of CO2 being generated is very low you don't need the valves.

All drop checkers are good for any size aquarium you want to use them in. The one in the ebay ad is like what I use now.
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Old 12-25-2007, 08:36 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Well basically its going to be in a gallon jug so I don't think it would make that much co2 that I need a needle valve.

hahha I'm not good enough to make a barrel or have any methods of getting rid of a barrel of wine when its done. Just making enough for me.

However, my only obstacle now is what size diffuser do I need for my 29 gal tank. Its the size that important or how much co2 my reactor puts out?
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Ok after waiting for a week for some of my supplies to come in from overseas, I decide to give u guys a photo journey of what I did.

First all the supplies!



Next make the holes and pull the airline through.





Then I chulked it up to prevent any air leaks





Then made the mixture.



Very simple, first add 1 teaspoon of yeast and hydrate it. It takes about 15 minutes. Then add half a cup of sugar and the 3 containers of concentrated grape juice. Afterwards add 6 cups of water and mix.



Then I tefloned the bubble counter and connected the system.






But then the problems. I got my co2 drop checker today and something werid happened. There was no directions so I followed what I read online before. 3 drops of reagent and then fill with 2/3rds water. I read that tap water is fine so thats what I added.

But then I noticed that immediately when I placed the checker in the water, it turn green. But I didn't even put my co2 set up there yet. How did it turn green already?



Can anyone tell me what I did wrong?

But then the other thing. I waited almost 10 hours now and still no co2 bubbles. Most dissapointing.

So then I plugged it to my air pump and it did work. But it was hell on my pump and it looked like it needed alot of pressure. Much more than a DIY. However, I seen people with DIY and glass diffusors. Not sure how to combat this problem right now. Changed my bubble counter with another more airtight container and still same problem .

I need a little help guys.
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Old 01-05-2008, 12:38 AM   #19 (permalink)
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The drop checker is best used with 4dKH water then when it's green (at pH 6.6) you will have 30ppm of CO2 in the water. If you use water of a different KH it will be green at different levels...

Also some glass diffusers seem to need too high a pressure for DIY CO2. I've always just used a ladder type of diffuser with my DIY CO2 so the only pressure is water pressure. I know some glass diffusers seem to work ok, but never tried it personally.
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Old 01-09-2008, 02:18 PM   #20 (permalink)
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Your right. I'm trying to get some/make some but for the moment, I am flawed about the drop checker.

But I finally have some good news.

I finally got my co2/wine generator working fully functional.

I turned it into two 2 liter bottles connected with a t connector. And filled it with my getto wine.



Then connect it to a wooden airstone and it works



Then I connected the glass difusor and prayed that it worked.



AND IT WORKS!! Yes sweet sweet success at last.
But its not all good news. My sister squeezed the bottles and the negative pressure from releasing the bottles caused fish water to get into the bottle. So I have co2 but no cheap wine *tears* I'm going to have to show you wine drinking results in a few months.

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