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Old 11-06-2007, 06:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Is this bacteria or snail poop?

I have, what at first I thougt to be snail poop, on just about everything in my tank. It's on the leaves, rocks, etc. Is it bacteria, rolled up little pieces of soil, snail poop? Anyone know?

(I have an El Natural setup...potting soil substrate, gravel, etc)

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Old 11-06-2007, 06:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Is this bacteria or snail poop?

what do you have in your tank besides plants and snails?

i see alot of shrimp poop on my driftwood, rocks, and plants.
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Old 11-07-2007, 03:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: Is this bacteria or snail poop?

I am no expert on poop, but that looks like poop to me. I see a lot of this in my 40 gallon tank due to the fact that I have ottos and a SAE that poop while in mid water and the poop lands on the plant leaves. Does it fall off if you brush it off or does it look like it is permanently stuck on the leaves or part of the leaves. If it does not brush of and appears permanently stuck on the leaves, it could be green spot algae. If it looks like it is part of the leaves and you are seeing similiar patches on all the leaves it could indicate a problem with your plants(some type of deficiency but I doubt this as the soil should be able to provide the required nutrients).

I am just guessing here and am not telling you that this is absolutely the answer.
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:48 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I don't have any fish in the aquarium yet. Just plants and the snails that came on them. It's actually a fair amount of snails. I plant to do my first major trimming this Saturday and I will physically remove some of the snails.
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Old 11-07-2007, 05:32 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Default Re: Is this bacteria or snail poop?

To quote Homer_Simpson, "I am no expert on poop" either...but that looks a lot like snail poop to me. Especially if it's just sitting there and you can "fan" it off the leaves and stones with tongs or a net or something.
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I second the snail poop option.
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i've never seen a snail in mid poop before. lol.
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Dude, if that was bacteria, I'd get a HazMat suit on before I stuck my arm in there . Also, your water column would look like chicken broth, if you were growing sufficient bacteria to form visible colonies.

I, too, vote Poop!! Wait, that sounds like my next campaign slogan!!! Dibs!
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I don't have any fish in the aquarium yet. Just plants and the snails that came on them. It's actually a fair amount of snails. I plant to do my first major trimming this Saturday and I will physically remove some of the snails.
Here's a situation where snails have been helpful.

The snails have cleaned the leaves of bacteria and algae, which can be problems in new startups. If I had my pick, I would most certainly prefer a few snail feces rather than see my plants blanketed with a coating of algae and bacteria.

This problem will subside over time. Right now, though, I would be grateful (and kind) to your snails.
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Here's a situation where snails have been helpful.

The snails have cleaned the leaves of bacteria and algae, which can be problems in new startups. If I had my pick, I would most certainly prefer a few snail feces rather than see my plants blanketed with a coating of algae and bacteria.

This problem will subside over time. Right now, though, I would be grateful (and kind) to your snails.
I do feel the snails are good little gardeners. I just wanted to make sure what I was noticing all over the tank wasn't something I should be concerned with. I do have a good # of snails and I actually can see the snail eggs in a few places. To keep the little gardeners from getting out of control I'll just physically remove a few each week...and it's true...I have not had a problem with algae at all, even though some of the plants I purchased to start the tank with had a little algae on them!
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