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Old 07-09-2008, 09:28 PM   #11 (permalink)
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well its been about 26 days and here we go UPDATE:

this is with no water changes and no ferts. maryicin was added for first week to kill BGA at 1/3 a packet a day. it was super messy when the BGA died. pieces floated every where. still some clinging to plants in photos, will have to clean it out soon.

3 three shrimp are dead lost the last one 4 days ago. going to have water tested to see if anything is going on, then get some cherry's and try again.








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Old 07-09-2008, 09:36 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Love the small grass that you have in the back. What is it? Looks good with the rocks. The downoi is doing great! When the pellia on your logs fills in I will love that. You've got a nice tank going on there.

Looks like your fighting a bladderwort plant At least it's easy to pull out. Course with all those fine small plants maybe not.
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Love the small grass that you have in the back. What is it? Looks good with the rocks. The downoi is doing great! When the pellia on your logs fills in I will love that. You've got a nice tank going on there.

Looks like your fighting a bladderwort plant At least it's easy to pull out. Course with all those fine small plants maybe not.
the plant in back is Utricularia graminifolia funny enough a bladderwort?
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I believe Utricularia graminifolia/bladderwort is actually carnivorous. It eats small shrimp/decopods,copapods,bugs etc. Check it out. You won't want to put shrimp with this plant.
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Old 07-10-2008, 12:45 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I have UG in my shrimp tank. I think the bugs have to be quite small! It's no problem with my baby shrimp. There are TONS in my tank.
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UG is carnivorous but it eats only really small stuff i dont even think it could eat baby fry.
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Looking good! Tilting the rock so it was closer to the erio looks much better, it ties together more now. I'm looking forward to seeing how this fills in.
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OK UPDATE: Dosing did not go well downoi was gone pretty fast, UG followed with in a day or two and the a green slime type algae and a stringy mess followed. I Was dosing very very small amounts to see what would happen with the white downoi. 2-3 days of dosing put the tank out of whack.

So i did a water change cleaned the algae off the glass only, bumped up the flow on the hot filter. after a week or two it looked better but still some algae.

So I added some of the ramshorns snails i got from dgphelps, and they had the tank clean in about 2days.

Im going to add a betta to help control the population (I hope)

Also i have a surprise plant in front middle that popped up.

Since it's been a month since the last update, lots of pics.

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edit: P.S. sorry for the dirty substrate i took pics before i cleaned
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The last bit of my Downoi

Erio.

surprise plant

Snail

Same snail

Erio. "mini" just added

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Your surprise plant looks like blyxa. Sorry about your downoi. That is a sensitive plant for me. It took me about 5 or 6 tries to get that stuff to grow. It melted all the time. I finally have it growing in my shrimp tank.

Looks like you might finally have things under control. Your HC and grass is going great guns! Looks like you might have a few strands of UG around your erio. Look at your px. Another surprise for your!
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Your surprise plant looks like blyxa. Sorry about your downoi. That is a sensitive plant for me. It took me about 5 or 6 tries to get that stuff to grow. It melted all the time. I finally have it growing in my shrimp tank.

Looks like you might finally have things under control. Your HC and grass is going great guns! Looks like you might have a few strands of UG around your erio. Look at your px. Another surprise for your!
I think you might be rite! I will look closer tomorrow i cant get to the timer.

I will not let downoi defeat me! I will try again in another tank that isnt so sensitive to changes.

as for the grass it has been unfazed (sp?) by anything and i have had to control the runners alot.

I think if i can get the erio mini to grow good i can use that to replace the downoi, the big erio has been really happy.

If that is blyxia it would be a huge surprise! i dont recall putting any in the tank ever but i could have.
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