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07-28-2008, 03:44 PM
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Re: New 50 Gal Setup
I'll try to post some "6 week" photos later this week.
Everything seems fine right now. I don't have any adult fish in the tank-- just the babies.
That's interesting about the shrimp not breeding in a setup with soil. Sounds reasonable that wood products might be the problem. Babies, juvenile fish, and eggs are almost always more sensitive to inhibitors/toxins than adult fish.
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07-29-2008, 10:56 AM
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Re: New 50 Gal Setup
Looking forward to the follow up photos.
When I set that tank up, I didn't screen the soil and it had plenty of wood bits. I only took out a few large pieces. I topped it with the Eco complete because that's what I had available. It's light so I ended up with wood bits on top . I didn't care about the look, and my soil was sticking together, not making the water turbid, so I didn't worry about it. The plants were ok. Adult shrimp were ok, but no fry or fertilized eggs (berried females), even though I saw (saddled) females with unfertilized eggs in their bodies. Same shrimp and UV filter (which I thought was the culprit) were moved into the 20g- with fish- when I gave up on the Cherry Shrimp Breeding, and viola: there were twelve fry that I could see. Though the Dwarf Gouramis have noticed them also. So I won't have to worry about them over running the tank, I guess.
I have, reluctantly, come to terms with the fact that I won't figure out everything in the tanks. Too much I don't know, personally. Maybe every nuances isn't even understood by science yet... It's life. Life in a little bottle maybe, but still complex.
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07-31-2008, 03:57 PM
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Re: New 50 Gal Setup
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Originally Posted by mommyeireanne
I have, reluctantly, come to terms with the fact that I won't figure out everything in the tanks. Life in a little bottle maybe, but still complex.
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Well said!
Here are photos of the 50 gal tank at 6 weeks. I included a shot of the fish while eating brine shrimp. Also, a photo of tank at 4 weeks for easier comparison.
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08-01-2008, 05:54 AM
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Re: New 50 Gal Setup
Nice tank Diana...& good progress  ,
I think those huge Swords will take over your tank very soon whic is a sign of good growth.
Are those sticks at the bottom on the 3rd pic(from the side)?If yes I think you can siphon them out,which makes the tank look better,coz I dont like that stuff on that beautiful sand.
Ravi
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08-01-2008, 06:56 AM
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Re: New 50 Gal Setup
Thanks. The tank I moved the spawning shrimp to was also soil. The fry seem to be doing very well. Their bellies are full and I see them actively picking all the time.
Your tank looks great, very dramatic difference between first & 6 week photos! Do you generally hatch babies in soil based tanks or move them there later?
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08-01-2008, 05:52 PM
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Re: New 50 Gal Setup
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Originally Posted by mommyeireanne
Thanks. The tank I moved the spawning shrimp to was also soil. The fry seem to be doing very well. Their bellies are full and I see them actively picking all the time.
Your tank looks great, very dramatic difference between first & 6 week photos! Do you generally hatch babies in soil based tanks or move them there later?
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Glad your shrimp are doing so well. One tank can be so different from another!
I raise all my fish in soil-based tanks. The soil is either in pots or part of the substrate.
I put a pair of Red Rainbowfish in the 50 gal for 10 days before I tore it down. As soon as fry started appearing, I collected the fry (used a soup spoon) and moved them into a 5 gal (newly set up with soil/plants in order to raise these babies).
After I got enough fry, I removed the parents, tore the 50 gal tank down, and set it up as you see.
Funny thing was that the plants I added to the 5 gal apparently had Rainbowfish eggs attached (the plants were from another tank). Thus, many of the babies are "unplanned", but I won't complain. It looks like they're Neon Rainbowfish, which are very cute.
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08-04-2008, 01:34 PM
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Re: New 50 Gal Setup
Good to know. I'm wasn't going to try to breed my fish, but I will remove them to another tank if they come along.
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08-07-2008, 06:46 PM
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Re: New 50 Gal Setup
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Originally Posted by dwalstad
Lights go on at 7:30 AM and then off at noon for a 4 hr "siesta". Lights go back on at 4:00 PM until 9:30PM. With the siesta, I save electricity, and the water doesn't heat up as much.
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So hows the "seista" working out for your tank?
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08-09-2008, 08:34 AM
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Re: New 50 Gal Setup
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Originally Posted by SpeedEuphoria
So hows the "seista" working out for your tank?
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I am very pleased with results from the "seista schedule". My other two tanks have been on the siesta schedule for a few months now. Plants in these tanks are doing well (if not better) than when they were on a 12 hr constant lighting schedule.
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08-16-2008, 06:27 AM
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Re: New 50 Gal Setup
Please don't take this otherwise. You don't actually have a siesta period for your tank. You get the sun direct/indirect after 12 noon and switch back to lights at 4pm.
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Tank get 60 watts of fluorescent light (one cool-white and one "Flora Glo" bulb) plus strong window light (Western exposure with 1-2 hr late afternoon sun). Lights go on at 7:30 AM and then off at noon for a 4 hr "siesta". Lights go back on at 4:00 PM until 9:30PM. With the siesta, I save electricity, and the water doesn't heat up as much.
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You actually have a 14 Hrs. light period.
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