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Old 07-16-2006, 09:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thank you Hoppy. My current bubble rate is 3bps and I did see bubbles forming behind the java fern and bolbitus, but I have cranked it up now, I can't tell how many as it is pretty fast, let's see what happens. Next week I will be adding shrimps and Ottos, so till then I can play around with it. I do however switch off the CO2 at night, should I leave it on 24/7? BTW the KH is still below 1ppm.
If you don't have any fish or shrimp it doesn't make any difference whether or not you shut off the CO2 at night, other than the CO2 usage, and the time to reach maximum CO2 in the water each morning. I think the goal of this exercise is to teach you what the tank looks like when you are absolutely sure you have plenty of CO2 in it. That makes it much easier to recognize when you don't.
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Yes, exactly! As ammonia is taken through the nitrogen cycle, acid is produced. It's basic proton chemistry. If you start with NH3 and end up with NO3- those protons went somewhere. To greatly simplify, they end up in solution as acid and this "consumes" some of the available bicarbonate. What you see is a pH drop. This makes up part of the "organic acid" that I refer to when stating that the pH/CO2/KH chart doesn't work very well.
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Boy, we're really off-topic here. I think I might pull this whole section out and start a new thread in the waterbucket to clean up the original thread.

The issue with carbonated beverages is that most of them contain huge quantities of phosphates in the form of phosphoric acid. Calcium regulation in the body is closely tied to serum phosphate levels. When phosphate levels are high (such as in renal failure or excessive soda pop consumption), the body tries to get rid of calcium. Uptake of calcium from the intestine is also slowed down.

To see clinical long-term effects such as osteoporosis you'd need to drink colossal quantities of soda over a period of many years, but that certainly doesn't exclude many people here in the US.

With regards to bicarbonate, it's a pretty simple molecule and the body has many enzymatic mechanisms for producing it and breaking it down in various locations. It isn't transported across the lumen of the glomerulus or the lumen of the gut in its native form. The actual transport occurs as CO2. A little acid-base aqueous chemistry, mediated by enzymes, and presto......., for all intents and purposes, HCO3- is produced. The enzyme carbonic anhydrase (also present in plants, allowing them to extract carbon directly from carbonate) is involved in this process.
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I once spoke with a co-worker who had a kidney stone. He refused to give up the soda though. So, the dumping of Calcium gets done via the kidneys and has little to nothing to do with the carbonate used to balance body pH?
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