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Old 09-20-2009, 09:57 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Old 09-23-2009, 11:27 PM   #42 (permalink)
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quick question ... why are the ppms so spuratic for the seachem dosing guide compared to EI,PPS,PPS pro/classic?? just a newb trying to figure things out =) Ie at the end of the week in my 25 gallon I have.

No3=2.09 ppm
Fe Iron=1.76 ppm
Po4=0.14 ppm
K=4.82 ppm

I'm not gonna go into trace it gets to small to matter that much to my question. now thats also saying my plants arent growing at all meaning no uptake of ferts if you bring plants into the equation wouldnt that starve them ? or is it meant to be lean? reason I ask is that I use the seachem line and would love to be using it right =)

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Seachem actually designed their dosing system. It is lean like you said. I created the calculator solely based on their fertilization schedule. People were having a hard time doing the conversions and I wrote it for that reason. When you get a chance, read the part that is in the lower right section. It basically tells you that it is a rough guide, all aquariums are different and that you would have to adjust it for your own needs. Here it is:
Please read this before you start your dosing regimen.
"Although planted aquariums are often considered to be difficult for the beginning hobbyist, we believe that planted aquaria are actually ideal for the beginner. With the right substrate the beginner can have a successful aquarium with a minimum of maintenance. As the beginner becomes more comfortable in the hobby they will feel inclined to experiment a bit and thus build on the solid foundation they have already established. It won't always be necessary to dose your aquarium with each of the products in the Flourish line, but as an example, we have developed one possible dosing regimen using all of our plant products. This is by no means the only way to dose your aquarium; it is merely a suggestion. Your dosing regimen will depend greatly on a variety of factors, including lighting, initial water quality, how heavily stocked your aquarium is, substrate selection, and types of plants; so don't be surprised if getting the results you want takes a little experimentation."


Seachem's dosing schedule was out before EI, PPS-Pro, etc. Back in the day, people dosed their planted aquariums very lean. Why is it lean? You will have to ask Seachem that question.


Are you adding CO2? Will you describe your lighting?

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No3=2.09 ppm
Fe Iron=1.76 ppm
Po4=0.14 ppm
K=4.82 ppm
Note that when you use Flourish Nitrogen, you double your NO3 reading because 1/2 of it is NH4+ and 1/2 of it is NO3. So, you have 4.18 ppm of NO3.

From: http://www.seachem.com/Products/prod...hNitrogen.html
"Because one-half of the nitrogen in Flourish Nitrogen™ is from nitrate you can get a reasonable estimate of nitrogen levels by doubling a nitrate reading ..."

You asked about your specs and dosing. You don't have anything bottoming out; which is good. If your plants are doing well and you don't have any algae issues; you should continue dosing like you are. Don't let NO3 or PO4 bottom out. This may cause algae. Don't let K bottom out either. This can cause pinholes in the leaves.

The Microsoft Office Excel based calculator has all of Excel's features. This means that you can customize it for your own use. You can use the unhide function to view the formulas and change them if you want to.

I'll keep a check on this thread to see if you have any questions. Good luck!

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Old 09-25-2009, 09:23 AM   #43 (permalink)
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well now that explained it quite well, I have a clearer understanding of why its lean now also I didnt know that about NO3 and NO4 tyvm for that little piece of info I'm still a total newb when it comes to PT's but I totally fell in love and now I'm just trying to get my dosing schedule dialed in and as for lighting I'm currently using a T5HO 55x2 agromax 6500k bulbs for about 8 hours a day with a 65watt coralife CF with a 50/50 and actinic bulb on for 2 hours for a mid day burst currently no algae issues and the tank has been running ferts for about 5 months although I'm still out of balance due to ferts lol my water is a little cloudy I think it's a algae bloom in the making so I'm trying to even things out get all the bugs ironed out you know basically settling in to the hobby =) also I run pressurized CO2 at 2bps through a glass diffuser trying to get my brother to make my a drop checker but he's a slacker lol so I have it set low for the fish's sake =) anything else just ask ill be glad to answer also thx again Left C for that interesting bit of info
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Old 09-27-2009, 09:45 PM   #44 (permalink)
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It is good that you have pressurized CO2. As you mentioned, you really need a drop checker with the 4 dKH solution and the Bromothymol blue indicator solution in order to dial in your CO2 level. GLA has a very good selection of drop checkers. The "Oracle" is probably the best one, but it is out of stock. I have some of the Green Leaf drop checkers. They come with the 4 dKH and Bb solutions.
http://www.greenleafaquariums.com/co...-checkers.html

Thank you for your information about your lighting and CO2. May I ask what size is your aquarium?
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well the tank measures out to 22.94 gal with 24 inches total depth. so I would say its a 20 T so depth is an issue for growing a foreground but I'm slowly but surely getting my ferts and light schedule balanced out as for the drop checker my brother is a glass blower and he makes all kinds of aquarium stuff for me so I'm just waiting on him then ill go and buy the solution also I went to the LFS this weekend and they were having a 50% off sale so I bought a 10 gallon on impulse for a shrimp tank =) got it all setup with semi Iwagumi shrimp breeder setup I put the 65w coralife over it its a little big for it but ill get some twisties for the regular hood it came with,also DIY CO2 into a powerhead no special substrate just river sand, light is on 8 hours a day,normal seachem dosing schedule should I get a box of laterite or something similar to throw on the top layer, I didnt have the money for eco complete plus ill be moving within a month or so, so ill end up redoing it anyways lol but until then my tetras have a tank to themselves until I get some CRS or RCS depending on prices and when I'm going to move thx again Left C

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I never liked laterite. I use Seachem's Flourish Tabs. It has much more nutrients for the plants. Pool filter sand is a very good substrate for planted aquariums.
http://www.seachem.com/Products/prod...urishTabs.html
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yea I use the tabs and I love em =) how often do you replace them anyways? also have you ever had a problem with the sand compacting if so what does it look like as in what effect does it have on the plants? blacked out root structure from whats in the sand?
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You can add new tablets once every one to three months for optimal plant growth.

Black roots are a sign of anaerobic regions in the substrate.

Can you "poke around" in your substrate? This will help to keep if from compacting. It will also release hydrogen sulfide gas in the form of bubbles.

Sometimes if a sand substrate is too deep anaerobic regions form.
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ahhh i'll have to poke around a bit then =) thx again
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