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Old 07-27-2007, 03:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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AZOO water softener

Has anyone used this? Useful?

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I have used activated charcoal before this when I started on my planted tank. I had really clear water. The plants were okay. I am not sure if I had limited the growth of my plants with the presence of the activated charcoal since I read that it also absorbs micronutrients and chelated iron, besides tannins. How many of you actually uses it?

Sadly, I have no access to Flourish Purigen just yet. If anyone has access to Flourish Purigen in Malaysia and knows where to get it... do tell =)
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Old 07-29-2007, 06:49 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Reading the link you provided, it says:
1. AZOO WATER SOFTENER is a specially selected substance with abundant cation exchange resin. It is the most effective absorbent for cation such as: Calcium and Magnesium in the water.


RENEWAL :

1. Rinse the AZOO WATER SOFTENER with tap water
2. Prepare a vessel and add 100 grams of salt per liter of tap water.
3. Soak AZOO WATER SOFTENER in the vessel for 30 ~ 60 minutes till it turns to brown again.
4. Rinse it with tap water again for 5 ~10 minutes.

This means it works like most water softeners, it replaces calcium and magnesium with sodium. And, sodium isn't good in aquarium water. You could use KCl instead of NaCl as the salt, and it would add potassium to the water in place of calcium and magnesium, which would be a lot better.
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Old 07-30-2007, 09:27 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks for the answer

Okay, my high school chemistry doesnt serve me well here. The resin wont be absorbing the chloride instead? Then releasing chlorine into the water system gradually. That was just an honest question. I hope you wont shoot me for it.

I read online that Na can merely replace K even for "sodium loving plants". So I guess its better to replace NaCl with KCl since plants will be able to use the K more. How do I get KCl? What are its common forms?

Sorry if I am being overly inquisitive, I am just preparing for the day that I might need to do something to soften the water as my aquasoil grows old and loses its water softening properties.

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As for the activated carbon question... My lfs told me that they might have Purigen at the next Flourish shipment. They might not. I am getting activated carbon if I find out that they dont have Purigen. Will inform of the progress of my tank if anything bad happens.
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I'm not a whiz at chemistry, but I know that water softeners work by having resin beads, usually, that are "charged" with a salt, usually sodium chloride. The beads trade the sodium ions for calcium and magnesium ions until they are "full", then you recharge them with a salt bath. They work on cations only, not anions, so the chloride ions are not involved. (I'm not at all clear on this part.) Now, you know as much about softeners as I do!

You can buy potassium chloride for water softeners, or I have been told you can, but it is more expensive than sodium chloride. And, I think salt substitute sold in grocery stores are potassium chloride. The label will tell you that.
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Haha. Ok. Cations are +vely charged and anions and -vely charged. Explains the choice of molecules chosen by the resin. No harm giving it a try i guess. Will look for the KCI you mentioned about. Thanks for the info again =)
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