Go Back   Aquatic Plant Central > General Interest Forums > General Aquarium Plants Discussions
User Name
Password

Advertise on APC

General Aquarium Plants Discussions Discuss aquarium plants, aquatic environments, aquarium lighting, aquarium filters, aquarium backgrounds, and other aquarium topics.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-05-2010, 10:09 PM   #1 (permalink)
Member
 
stevenlau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 98
iTrader Ratings: 0
stevenlau is a regular member
Plant Points: 7150
Default The Difficult Hemianthus micranthemoides

Why it is so hard to grow this plant? What is the special parameter to successfully grow this plant? Intensive lighting?

Mine seem like to grow at a certain height and then melt at the bottom stem part, I replant those healthy parts and after they grow at certain height, they started to melt again at the bottom and so on. Even though I plant them sparse enough in order for light to be able to reach the bottom part. They grow at medium speed not fast as described on most website. Also I noticed the new grown shoot has smaller leaf. Do they stunt? Lastly, I noticed that this plants are not forming roots at the base, is this normal?

Substrate using ADA AS II
pH = 5.2-6.4
kH = 0-1 dgH
gH = 4-5 dgH
Light = 2x21watt T5NO (Tank size 80x30x40cm)
CO2 diffuse by external reactor
EI dosing :
NO3 = 10 ppm
PO4 = 1.8 ppm
K = target 20+ ppm
Fe = 0.25 ppm
Ca = 20 ppm
Mg = 5 ppm

The tank has been setup for almost 1 month. TIA.

Last edited by stevenlau : 02-05-2010 at 10:26 PM.
stevenlau is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote

Advertisement [Remove Advertisement]

Old 02-06-2010, 12:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 94
iTrader Ratings: 8
iTrader Positive Rating: 100%
DarioDario is a regular member
Plant Points: 5300
Default Re: The Difficult Hemianthus Micranthemoides

Did you take the time to cycle the tank with just the ADA substrate? HM is incredibly easy to grow. So I'm suspecting that you haven't cycled the soil properly and thats whats causing the plant to melt. Fill us in
DarioDario is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2010, 08:15 AM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
endgin33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Salt lake City
Posts: 138
iTrader Ratings: 0
endgin33 is a regular member
Plant Points: 9950
Default Re: The Difficult Hemianthus micranthemoides

I find HM to be really easy to grow in my hard water- in fact I just read an article on the ADA site about how HM is a hard water plant. Given how soft and acidic you water is, that may be the problem.
endgin33 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2010, 08:22 AM   #4 (permalink)
Member
 
stevenlau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 98
iTrader Ratings: 0
stevenlau is a regular member
Plant Points: 7150
Default Re: The Difficult Hemianthus Micranthemoides

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarioDario View Post
Did you take the time to cycle the tank with just the ADA substrate? HM is incredibly easy to grow. So I'm suspecting that you haven't cycled the soil properly and thats whats causing the plant to melt. Fill us in
No, I just cycled the tank together with ADA substrate and all the plants. Should I really just cycle the tank with ADA substrate only? But why? How to cycle ADA substrate only and how long? What is the purpose behind it? Why not all the plants melt except HM? TIA
stevenlau is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2010, 08:24 AM   #5 (permalink)
Member
 
stevenlau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 98
iTrader Ratings: 0
stevenlau is a regular member
Plant Points: 7150
Default Re: The Difficult Hemianthus micranthemoides

Quote:
Originally Posted by endgin33 View Post
I find HM to be really easy to grow in my hard water- in fact I just read an article on the ADA site about how HM is a hard water plant. Given how soft and acidic you water is, that may be the problem.
Could you provide me the links? Thanks

Wouldn't the HM just be able to adapt to soft water?
stevenlau is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2010, 03:35 PM   #6 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
endgin33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Salt lake City
Posts: 138
iTrader Ratings: 0
endgin33 is a regular member
Plant Points: 9950
Default Re: The Difficult Hemianthus micranthemoides

Here you go. http://www.aquajournal.net/na/water/plants_prefer.html
In my hard water it grows SO fast under high light and co2, it is almost a nuisance.
endgin33 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-06-2010, 03:44 PM   #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
endgin33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Salt lake City
Posts: 138
iTrader Ratings: 0
endgin33 is a regular member
Plant Points: 9950
Default Re: The Difficult Hemianthus micranthemoides

In fact, in the article it specifically discusses Amazonia and HM. Those guys are pretty good at this stuff...
endgin33 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2010, 07:39 AM   #8 (permalink)
Member
 
stevenlau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 98
iTrader Ratings: 0
stevenlau is a regular member
Plant Points: 7150
Default Re: The Difficult Hemianthus micranthemoides

Thanks so much endgin33 for the link.

Now come to think of it, should I just replace the HM with another plant or just keep planting until they form the roots and hoping somehow they will adapt/acclimate to my soft water, hmmm? The link clearly describe my HM situation precisely
Quote:
When the pH and hardness of the water decreases during the initial set-up period, the lower part of the plant tends to melt, and it takes some time and effort to get it established.
stevenlau is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2010, 08:17 AM   #9 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
nfrank's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NC
Posts: 291
iTrader Ratings: 18
iTrader Positive Rating: 100%
nfrank is a regular member
Plant Points: 43950
Default Re: The Difficult Hemianthus micranthemoides

Quote:
Originally Posted by endgin33 View Post
Here you go. http://www.aquajournal.net/na/water/plants_prefer.html
In my hard water it grows SO fast under high light and co2, it is almost a nuisance.
i dont think it should make a big difference here, but the plant that Amano calls "Pearl Grass" is not Hemianthus micranthemoides. I got some from him a long time ago, and PG looks alot like HM but PG has 2 leaves at each node (HM native to the US has 3 or 4) and the appearance of PG is a little less stiff. From my experience PG and HM grow very easily in soft water.

Here is a somewhat humerous old exchange Amano Pearl Grass . The link to the picture is broken. He is a working link to a different old picture, i still have on-line. HM is on the left, PG is on the right.
nfrank is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2010, 06:44 PM   #10 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
Tausendblatt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Canada
Posts: 109
iTrader Ratings: 0
Tausendblatt is a regular member
Plant Points: 6400
Default Re: The Difficult Hemianthus micranthemoides

So, the real Pearl grass bends like rotala green hmm? Makes sense for there to be 2 different species, since there are 2 common "interchangeable" names, baby tears and pearl grass. Just like Elodea and Egeria.

Is that the micranthum umbrosum or whatever it's called, or it something entirely different?
Tausendblatt is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Aquatic Plant Central > General Interest Forums > General Aquarium Plants Discussions > The Difficult Hemianthus micranthemoides

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:39 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2010, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.

LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0

Copyright © 2006 - 2009 Aquatic Plant Central | About Aquatic Plant Central | Advertising Opportunities | Legal | A member of the Crowdgather Forum Community
Created by Blue Moose Designs