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Old 06-12-2013, 07:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default True Alternanthera reineckii 'Variegated'

I keep seeing many forms of alternanthera reineckii variegated, is there any true variegated species that's stable and not due to low light/nutrient conditions?

for instance here's manini's alternanthera sp. variegated but who knows if it's reineckii???


and here's the same plant growing in wabisabi's tank


I got a alternanthera reineckii 'variegated' from John (sfbaaps member) and when i bought it i was expecting the same variegation as picture above but what I got looked like regular reineckii. So after talking to John turns out this one has faint pale veins and after growing it out... obviously it is variegated/speckled with pale splotches and the tops of the leaf are more red then the usual reineckii which is brown/green








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Old 06-17-2013, 10:04 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I have this plant and its by far the best red plant and i would even say its the holy grail or reds. They are picky in growing conditions because they need a lot of light and good co2.

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Those look like two different plants i have the red one on top i grow submerged and emersed when grown emerced they loose most of the red color and changes to a medium green color but still have the same shape the second picture looks like a thin leaf vs wide like the one u posted above. I don't think those plants are the same
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Here is the my alternanthera reineckii variegated I got from TEXAS. His was grown outdoors. He indicated they were originally from Manini The growth was green with pink veins and a pinkish stem with white flowers at leaf nodes.

The new growth has been a nice red with pinkish veins like wabisabi's. This is under a Finnex Fugeray.



Now this is one of those same stems in my emersed setup. The new growth is even redder than my submerged stems, the leaves are developing a 'crinkle' like manini's and they are growing very compact and leaves are pointing almost straight up. This is under a 24watt T5HO 6500k bulb, but very close to the plant.





Based on this, maybe the different growth patterns are probably a result of light intensity, and not the result of one being true and one not?

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Default Re: True Alternanthera reineckii 'Variegated'

Tropica has an Alternanthera 'Rosanervig': http://www.tropica.com/en/plants/pla....aspx?pid=023D
Identical with the 'Variegated' from manini?
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I'm pretty sure both the Tropica plant and Manini's are the same thing as the A. reineckii 'Mini', just infected with the same "rosanervig" virus that causes the "variegation" in a number of other species.

Neil's plant looks to be truly variegated, though—note that the paler blotches don't follow the veins. (Any chance you've got a spare cutting of that, Neil?)
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I'm pretty sure both the Tropica plant and Manini's are the same thing as the A. reineckii 'Mini', just infected with the same "rosanervig" virus that causes the "variegation" in a number of other species.
Thx; Tropica writes that the A. "Rosanervig" has a compact growth form, that's also in line with the 'Mini'. However maybe the Rosanervig/Variegated grows under water more compact than emersed, I've observed that years ago in A. reineckii "Rosaefolia Minor" that's the same as the 'Mini' (AFAIK).
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It's pretty compact emersed, too—I received a specimen that was sold to me as regular 'Mini', put it into emersed culture, and right away it began to display fairly intense rosanervig-style variegation. It still maintains a much smaller form with much shorter internodes than the A. r. 'rosaefolia' that I keep in the same tub.
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