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Old 11-20-2008, 05:15 PM   #171 (permalink)
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baby shrimpy wooooo!!!! here's looking at you!!!!

Sunstar the insane has bought a betta...:P
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Old 11-20-2008, 06:38 PM   #172 (permalink)
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Your moss is doing great. What is the other moss which is growing straight up? Is it flame moss?
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Old 11-20-2008, 07:52 PM   #173 (permalink)
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Thanks Sunstar! Did you put the betta in your 'Beautiful-not-a-weed-fest-29gal' tank? The original 3 ugly shrimp I bought (including Cammy the chameleon) were kept in a 10gal at the store, with the healthiest betta I have ever seen! The poor shrimp were all very clear and they had to move constantly so the betta wouldn't get them. I don't think a betta would get many shrimp in a planted tank though, unless a shrimp really wanted to get eaten. I claim the titles of 'Insanity' and 'Chaos', that includes all meanings associated with, or in close proximity to, so you will have to be 'Sunstar the Unstoppable', or something else (sorry).

Your right Tex Gal, that is flame moss! For some reason I was surprised that it would stick straight up while growing emersed, no water to support it. I don't know why I was surprised, I guess the moss has no shortage of viagrow. It just won't settle down. Here is a pic of the moss squares at the start:


Flame moss (don't look too long, you might go blind):


I made a new square for my pellia on the left. It looks horrible right now, but some new growth is showing. I think it will take off as soon as it settles in:


The moss is growing thick! Another week and I will make a few more squares!



I would like to apologize for any disturbing observations in advance, and I want everyone to know that I do not approve of moss taking pills. No idea how they smuggle that contraband in, probably buy it from Sgt.Slaughter
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Old 11-21-2008, 04:39 AM   #174 (permalink)
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I would like to put the betta in my weed fest, but I have issues in there which require me to quarintine the new fish from them. An issue which soon will be rectified.
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Old 11-21-2008, 05:29 PM   #175 (permalink)
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Your plants (and MOSS!!! ) are looking fantastic! I jealous of the moss squares.

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Old 11-21-2008, 07:57 PM   #176 (permalink)
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Your betta will be healthy and constantly active when you put it in the weedfest, Sunstar! Thanks for the compliments Davemonkey! I guess the moss isn't ugly, the rest of the plants are though, at least for now. The growth is picking up slowly, here is a pic previously posted of the emersed box 2 days ago:


Here it is now, a few more leaves popping out. Might not be a lot of growth, but I am happy the 3 remaining swords are finally settling in:





The dieing sword is dead, so I should probably pull it out. The 2 anubias coffeefolia are sloooowly growing, I need to put them on the back wall somewhere so they are completely emersed. Here is a new leaf:


I think everyone will live if I don't post pics so often, so I will post more after I trim the big tree and move stuff around, and if my tank blows up. Still debating Co2, if everything takes off I won't bother, but after I add the goby my fish load will be doubled, so I don't know how the tank will react.
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Old 11-25-2008, 10:15 PM   #177 (permalink)
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Where did you buy the lampeye? The place I used to go don't carry them anymore!!
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Old 11-26-2008, 06:06 AM   #178 (permalink)
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I may put a girl into the weedfest, but right now, I am making a tank for Kaon. A tank all of his own and lovingly sculpted.I dunno if it'll be a weedfest, but it'll have leaves and moss.

Speaking of moss. Where did you get the mesh for your moss squares? I'd probably use green scrubby pads for the base of mine if I chose to do that.
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Fantastic growth!!! Are using ferts or adding Co2?
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Revernance- I bought the lampeyes at a LFS. I looked on Aquabid for them but had no luck there, Ebay might sell eggs but I'm not sure. Unfortunately another one of my lampeyes died, so now I only have 2 females and 5 males! My biggest female has laid quite a few eggs, they last about a week until they are eaten though, and my smaller female is still underage. One of the eggs has eyed up, and if it hatches out I will let things go as they are. If the eyed up egg gets picked off, I will have to set up a floating net and put lots of moss and any eggs I see in there. I still have no idea what is going on with these fish, but at least my big female is healthy! So far she has laid around 9 eggs that I have seen. Lampeye eggs are pretty big, but they are all spread out, so finding them takes awhile.

Sunstar- I used Gutter Guard screen, it's meant to go over gutters I guess! I bought it at Fredmeyer's, but any hardware store should sell it. It is made out of thick sturdy plastic, but the down side to it is that its only 6" wide, so it would take a couple of strips to cover the back of an aquarium. I think the roll of screen cost me $3, and that was for 20 feet, so it goes a long way! If you have enough moss to pack a mesh/screen fully, then it won't matter what you use because the moss will grow out to hide it. I won't set up my pretty tank until I have moss coming out of my ears, but the bare screen edges look fine for an ugly tank!

Dawntwister- No ferts or Co2! I gave up on the idea of Co2 because I don't have enough nutrients to support quicker growth. The hellclump of bba is all gone, the only algae I have is on a section of the big root thats under the emersed box. Not a lot left, and I have absolutely no algae any where else! I have never scrubbed the glass that is submersed yet either, the only thing on the glass is hydra. The tank used to have a lot of buggies in it, but the populations are dwindling down. I will let the hydra be, the same thing happened in my NPT and once the buggies die down the hydra starve and disappear. After awhile the buggy populations pick up again, but not as many, and they are stabilized, and no more hydra! Hopefully this will happen in the ugly tank also, the hydra already look small and thin.

I decided against putting my dragon goby in this tank, I believe the tank could support him just fine, but he wouldn't have any running room. Eventually I will trade him in to my LFS, they are good people and will take care of him. No more impulse buys for me! I will take pictures of him later on though, he looks wicked cool, but he is very peaceful, not predatory at all. He only eats blood worms and the occasional shrimp pellet, he wouldn't even touch a tiny earthworm! Picky picky...

I have 3 berried shrimp now! The one that I thought was saddled is now berried, only the red thing in it's back is still there! I guess I still can't really tell when a shrimp is saddled, but I know what berried looks like. You were right Sunstar, berried shrimp look freaky! It looks like they are making popcorn and rolling it around in there swimmerets
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