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Old 10-02-2006, 03:55 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I think it was supposed to be something like 1/2 the points of propagating that species. Now I don't think that we need any exceptions for flowerings since we raised the requirements in the levels of accomplishments.
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Do we want to have some flowerings be of different point values?
Ease of propagation is not always the same as ease of flowering.


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Old 10-08-2006, 04:32 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I think there should be a lower point value for easier-to-flower species, at the very least to show newbies like me which ones are easier with which to start.

On another note, what reference can I use to determine the different native Hyrdrocotyle species? I stole some from someone's lawn, I'd like to be able to identify it after going through the trouble. Luckily it was an old geezer who couldn't chase me. He could only shake his fist at me as he waddled down his sidewalk
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On another note, what reference can I use to determine the different native Hyrdrocotyle species? I stole some from someone's lawn, I'd like to be able to identify it after going through the trouble. Luckily it was an old geezer who couldn't chase me. He could only shake his fist at me as he waddled down his sidewalk

There are some pics here:
Hydrocotyle species -- Center for Aquatic and Invasive Plants

Info on several species here:
Aquatic Weeds

This link also has some interesting native plant info:
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There is a lot about Hydrocotyle in The Plants of Pennsylvania By Ann Fowler Rhoads and Timothy A. Block. Also try

browse taxa

This is a pretty good website for plants.

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A couple questions on the new AHAP rules:

1) If you propagate a plant and then you later sexually propagate the same plant do you get any extra points for the sexual propagation since sexual propagations are worth 1.5 times the amount of a regular propagation?

2) Requirements for propagation 7 b states that you can write an article for publication in the GPASI news letter in order to receive credit for propagation of a plant. Should we require some proof of propagation? e.g. bring in plants to the auction for the AHAP committee to see, or maybe just a picture of the plants.

3) In my experience Penthorum sedoides is a rather challenging pant to grow under water, however it grows very well out of water. Same with Ammania latifolia. Should plants like these have a bigger point value for submersed cultivation?


Please excuse any bad wording or grammer. I feel as if I am about to fall asleep as I am writing this reply to thread.

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go to bed fooo!

1) yes

2) yes

3) yes, I think. I didn't know we can submit emersed plants for points....


I can forgive the "grammer" errors but work on the spelling!
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A couple questions on the new AHAP rules:

1) If you propagate a plant and then you later sexually propagate the same plant do you get any extra points for the sexual propagation since sexual propagations are worth 1.5 times the amount of a regular propagation?

2) Requirements for propagation 7 b states that you can write an article for publication in the GPASI news letter in order to receive credit for propagation of a plant. Should we require some proof of propagation? e.g. bring in plants to the auction for the AHAP committee to see, or maybe just a picture of the plants.

3) In my experience Penthorum sedoides is a rather challenging pant to grow under water, however it grows very well out of water. Same with Ammania latifolia. Should plants like these have a bigger point value for submersed cultivation?


Please excuse any bad wording or grammer. I feel as if I am about to fall asleep as I am writing this reply to thread.

Later,

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1) Yes, you should get points for propagating a plant sexually after you have propagated it asexually. The real question is should you wind up with:
A) 1 + 1.5 = 2.5 times the point value or
B) just 1.5 times the poing value


2) Yes, proof of propagation is required. There should be a phrase in the rules like: "Even If a plant is not donated to the AHAP auction the propagation must still be visually verified by a member of the AHAP committee."

3) In my experience many plants are easier to grow emersed than submersed. Indeed the plant farms use emersed culture whenever possible to speed up growth. While it is easy to tell with some species that they were grown emersed that may not be true for all plants. Which means that it would be difficult to enforce the point difference for all species. Is the difference worth the extra effort in having different point values for submersed asexual propagation, emersed asexual propagation and sexual propagation?

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