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Old 09-07-2006, 07:45 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi All. For those of you who know of the Aquatic Horticultural Award Program (AHAP) run within the Greater Pittsburgh Aquarium Society Inc. (GPASI), there will be some changes made to the program by the end of this month. I wanted to post some of the changes here for everybody to review and give their opinions and thoughts. Even if you don't participate in the AHAP program I think that you will be able to help out. I know there are some excellent plant growers in our club that are not in GPASI. For information about the AHAP program and its rules go to:

GPASI : AHAP

Anyway, I’ll start with Class G – Stem Plants

Here is the old Class G:

Class G - Stem Plants Biological types 8 Plants with long stems with leaves which root in the mud. They are dependent on life in the water, but at the same time can have contact with the air. (floating leaves, immersed part of the stem and the blossoms). Many aquarium species belong to this group. Alternanthera reineckii Ammannia senegalensis gracilis Bacopa amplexicaulis caroliniana monnieri Cabomba aquatica caroliniana furcata Cardamine lyrata (bittercress) Didiplis diandra (waterhedge) Eichhornia diversifolia azurea Elodea canadensis (Anacharis) Gymnocoronis spilanthoides Hydrilla verticillata Egeria densa Hottonia palustris (water violet) inflata (tropical water violet) Hygrophila corymbosa (giant hygrophilia) polysperma difformis (water wisteria) Heteranthera zosterifolia Lagarosiphon major Limnophila (ambulia) heterophylla aquatica sessiflora Ludwigia arcuata glandulosa inclinata repens Lysimachia nummularia (loosetrife) Lobelia cardinalis (water lobelia), Myriophyllum mattogrossense pinnatum spicatum (milfoil), Najas flexilis guadalupensis, Potamogeton gayi perfoliatus, Rotala macrandra rotundifolia wallichii, Shinnersia rivularis, Zosterella dubia. To complete this class one must propagate six (6) species.

5 points: all Elodea species, Hygrophilia polysperma

10 points: all Hygrophilia species (except H. polysperma) and all species not mentioned in other groups

15 points: all Myriophyllum species, Ludwigia glandulosa, Cabomba caroliniana

20 points: Hottonia palustris, Eichhornia diversifolia and azurea, Ammania species, Nesaea pedicillata, Cabomba furcata and aquatica

Targets: Ludwigia inclinata, Eusteralis stellata, Rotala wallichi and macrandra, Nesaea sp “red”, Blyxa alternifolia



Here is the new Class G that Bill Wells and I have been working on:

Class G - Stem Plants (10 species)
Plants with long stems with leaves which root in the mud. They are dependent on life in the water, but at the same time can have contact with the air. (floating leaves, immersed part of the stem and the blossoms). The roots must remain moist, but the stems can grow in or out of the water. Many aquarium species belong to this group.

5 points: all Elodea species, Hygrophila polysperma, Rotala rotundifolia

10 points: All Hygrophila species (except H. polysperma and H. balsamica) and all species not mentioned in other groups.

15 points: Cabomba caroliniana, Ludwigia glandulosa, Rotala sp.‘Colorata’, Bacopa sp. ‘Colorata’, Hemigraphis traian, Ludwigia arcuata, Juncus repens, Rotala pusilla, Rotala sp. ‘Nanjenshan’ and all Myriophyllum species.

20 points: Hottonia palustris, Eichhornia diversifolia, Eichhornia azurea, Ammania species, Nesaea pedicillata, Cabomba furcata and Cabomba aquatica, Rotala sp.‘Goias’, Rotala ramosior, Rotala sp. ‘Vietnam’

Targets: All varieties of Ludwigia inclinata, Pogostemon stellatus, Rotala wallichi, Rotala macrandra, Nesaea sp “red”, all Tonina species, Egleria fluctuans, Ludwigia sp. ‘Guinea’, Pogostemon helferi, Hemianthus callitrichoides

This is a class that I think needs severe updates and changes. I’m sure it still needs some changes so if you get a little time give me some feedback.


Thanks,

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I think Nesaea pedicellata should be a target. I'm not so sure P. helferi should be.
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What is the goal of the target species? Very difficult species to propogate? Very rare species?

P. helferi may not be the most difficult to propogate, but it is pretty finnicky, if it gets shaded it melts in a day - one day it's there next day it's gone. If we want to make any stem plants that can be used in the foreground to be target species as a general rule, P. helferi would fit.

I think Hygrophila sp. "red" should a target as well.
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Thanks for the quick feedback guys. Target species are plants that are very difficult to grow. I've never grown P. helferi but I heard that it is difficult. Cavan and I were talking about making a 30 point category. Perhaps P. helferi should be a 30 point plant. I also think N. pedicellata should be a target. I have no experience with Hyrgophila sp. "red". Has anybody else?

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It's the last plant you put in the tank that I wanted to make sure to keep. It's a very slow grower for me.....I haven't gotten any new growth shoots yet.

A 30 point category would make sense to me.
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Thanks for the quick feedback guys. Target species are plants that are very difficult to grow. I've never grown P. helferi but I heard that it is difficult. Cavan and I were talking about making a 30 point category. Perhaps P. helferi should be a 30 point plant. I also think N. pedicellata should be a target. I have no experience with Hyrgophila sp. "red". Has anybody else?

Thanks,

Tim
Just so everyone knows target species are worth 40 points. There is a large jump in points from the 20 point species to the targets, but this matches with what BAP has been doing for many decades. I don't see any reason to mess with success; while we don't have to keep things exactly like the BAP program it is a good model to follow. The target category should be reserved for those species that take a great deal of time and effort to propagate.

I will post more later; I have to head out of the house now.
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HA, ha; He, he.....being the newbie of the bunch, anything I can grow should be considered an easy plant!

I started with 5 two inch sprigs of Pogostemon helferi then in two months time I had almost 25 bushy bunches. BUT, when I pulled the tank apart and left them in a bowl of water for four days while I collected new hardscape, debated & designed and handled an unplanned emergency 16 hour work day....well.... I ended up with a bowl of TOTAL MUSH!!!! My other plants handled the waiting game pretty well. Not the P. helferi! Thank goodness I plopped a single stem in the tank where I was debuting its new tank placement. Now back to square one to rebuild my grove.

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Just so everyone knows target species are worth 40 points. There is a large jump in points from the 20 point species to the targets, but this matches with what BAP has been doing for many decades. I don't see any reason to mess with success; while we don't have to keep things exactly like the BAP program it is a good model to follow. The target category should be reserved for those species that take a great deal of time and effort to propagate.

Yes, the jump in points is due to the difficulty of growing a target species. However, since the green side of the hobby is quickly growing, there are now several species that fall somewhere in between the 20 point plants and the targets. I don't think it is a huge deal if we add it or not, but if the only reason to not add a 30 point class is because of the success of the BAP program, then I still think we should add 30 point class.

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Since we are comparing the BAP and AHAP programs, it can take at the least 3 months to get a spawn for BAP. For AHAP, often in can take 1-2 months, and multiple submissions can be acquired from one tank. Should we consider increasing the number of points and requirements for the classes? I've been doing the AHAP for only a few months and I have over 300 points already - 1/3 of the requirements (points at least) to Grand Master.
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Hey Efren. Yes that is definitely true. Here are the new requirements for levels of accomplishments that we are going to propose:

LEVELS OF ACCOMPLISHMENT
Requirements for the levels of accomplishment are as follows:

Novice Aquatic Horticulturalist: a total of 5 to 100 points

Beginning Aquatic Horticulturalist: a total of 100 points plus the following:
• one (1) completed class

Aquatic Horticulturist: a total of 200 points plus the following:
• two (2) completed classes
• one (1) flowering or sexual reproduction

Senior Aquatic Horticulturist: a total of 300 points plus the following:
• three (3) completed classes
• three (3) flowerings
• one (1) sexual reproduction
• two (2) articles, oral presentations, or artworks published in the newsletter.

Expert Aquatic Horticulturalist: a total of 500 points plus the following:
• five (5) completed classes
• five (5) flowerings
• two (2) sexual reproductions
• four (4) articles, oral presentations, or artworks published in the newsletter.
• One Target species propagated.

Master Aquatic Horticulturist: a total of 900 points plus the following:
• eight (8 ) completed classes
• eight (8 ) flowerings
• three (3) sexual reproductions
• six (6) articles, oral presentations, or artworks published in the newsletter.
• Two Target species propagated.

Grand Master Aquatic Horticulturist: a total of 1,300 points plus the following:
• completion of all classes
• ten (10) flowerings
• five (5) sexual reproductions
• eight (8 ) articles, oral presentations, or artworks published in the newsletter.
• Five Target species propagated.

They are obviously harder, but are they hard enough?

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