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Old 10-06-2014, 12:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Well after viewing the thread up top, and a lot more in here, I've decided to give this a go. This thread will be a copy and paste from my other journal, but I would welcome comments here as well since I know there's members on here who aren't on the other and vice versa

Wish me luck!

My parts list!
  • Scissors
  • Clear Plastic large bin
  • Shoebox size bins
  • Topsoil
  • Light Timer
  • Humidity Meter
  • Water
  • Lights
  • Some time
Well I needed some space, so I got rid of my moss growout which wasn't doing anything but growing algae...



Then I got myself a plastic bin from walmart ($16.77)



And I def took the humidity guage idea to heart($5.97 @ Petco, I could have gotten cheaper on ebay, but I'm impatient today....)



Drilled many many holes, used a pair of nail clippers to take care of the ugly hole blocking plastic that happened with many of the holes



Cleaned out the bin in the bathtub



I then took the lids that came with the shoe boxes and cut them to act as free dividers for multiple species (plus they're free since they came with the box!)



Fill up the dirt



Get your hands dirty and have fun



Add water, I've added about 4 gallons here, also added dividers...I've now reduced about a half gallon of water out of the setup since the soil seemed to be super-saturated this morning



Added the lights -- These are the walmart plant lights that they have locally, they seem to be doing the trick so far (I had these laying around, I'm planning on adding a few more possibly, IDK yet)



Humidity showing about 95% about 2 hours after letting the lights run and closing the top, checking everything tonight, plan on adding a few plants tomorrow!



UPDATES FROM TODAY

So everything seemed stable, I've worked plants into 3 out of the 4 bins now.

Humidity was at about 92% when the photo period started, I added a bit of dirt to the bins to take care of the settling/saturation and then reduced the water just a hair, I'll be watching the dirt over the next few days to see if I should add a bit of water back or not, currently the water is approx. 1.5-2" under the surface of the soil.

Found some decent looking HC at the LFS (was very surprised to see that) bought a planter worth and got it in there. Here's hoping it takes off



Also found some pigmy chain sword, I've wanted to try these guys in the past but have had no room in any of my tanks, so I said why not and decided to go to town with the planter, here's hoping I get some runners Also decided to try some rotala macrandra japan red in this bin as well.



Some Moneywort and some CW Green, they're small but who knows, if these guys don't work out I'll transplant a bit from my bigger tank, or if they work out maybe I'll transplant some red or bronze over from one of my submerged tanks into the empty bin



Full bin shot as of about 20 minutes ago. I may open up to mist the plants down in a few days but that will be it, going to try to run this guy sealed for 72 hours and then open for gas exchange and mist and then close.



Comments and suggestions are always welcomed Thanks for dropping by, be sure to subscribe since this will be quite easy for me to update versus a lot of my tank journals.
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This is an awesome idea. I think I may try this, after I have to tear down my tank.
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Looking good so far! Now we just need a little bit of time for the plants to grow in.
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Looking good so far! Now we just need a little bit of time for the plants to grow in.
Thanks! I had a good teacher . If you have any suggestions I'd be glad to hear them. Going to try for Sunday updates at least a few pics....
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This is an awesome idea. I think I may try this, after I have to tear down my tank.
Thanks, check the sticky up top thats what I'm modeling it after
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So I figured that it was time for an update So it's been about three weeks since I got this up and running, and I'm noticing some growth and some plants are yellowing (maybe losing submerged leaves?)

Anyway here we go

The Dwarf Baby Tears seem to be doing well, I've seen a bit of expansion so far



Got some yellowing on the PCS but seem to be having a bit of success and growth with the Jap Red



Crypts seem to be doing alright and the B. Monnieri seems to be doing good, stems are now standing on their own and appear to have some growth going on, another few inches and I'll trim and replant



And here's a view from the top, I opened it today just long enough to take pictures, mist and allow for gas exchange (as I've been doing once a week on Sunday since I got this going)



Thanks for dropping by and if you have any comments or suggestions please feel more than free to leave them!
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So it's been about a month, and I thought I'd share some updates.

Growth seems a bit slow, but I have a new light on the way so that should be taking care of that problem

I've been opening it up about once a week to allow for gas exchange and to mist the plants so they don't dry out when I do that.

Humidity has been maintaining approx. 85% and the plants have been losing some of the submerged leaves in exchange for emersed. Anyway here ya go and as always feel free to leave a comment or suggestion in the replies









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Looking good! The HC in particular looks like it is spreading well.

That's the thing about emersed growth, it is much slower than submersed growth in my experience on a leaf to leaf basis. Sure there is more CO2 around, but the plants have to invest so much more into protecting themselves vs. drying out and into their structure to hold themselves up vs. gravity, and to grow huge root systems to absorb nutrients.

Either way, its fun to setup an emersed tank and watch everything fill in. There really is nothing like opening up a tub of emersed plants and looking at all the greenery in the winter time. Like a little piece of summer.
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Looking good! The HC in particular looks like it is spreading well.

That's the thing about emersed growth, it is much slower than submersed growth in my experience on a leaf to leaf basis. Sure there is more CO2 around, but the plants have to invest so much more into protecting themselves vs. drying out and into their structure to hold themselves up vs. gravity, and to grow huge root systems to absorb nutrients.

Either way, its fun to setup an emersed tank and watch everything fill in. There really is nothing like opening up a tub of emersed plants and looking at all the greenery in the winter time. Like a little piece of summer.
Thanks!

I'm thinking of putting a divider into that bin that's unused at the moment and popping in an anuibas and splitting the HC a bit. Not entirely sure what I'm going to do with the HC as of yet since I've never had it and don't have the tank space right now to start a HC shrimp tank.

Honestly I'm thinking of selling the plants to go towards another bin, I love watching plants grow and having options for rescaping tanks is nice.

I do have another light coming in that's an LED (which is a bit heavy on the blue spectrum) but I'm thinking of using it on the top which would give me 2 T8 lights and the LED light....might be fun to experiment since I know that algae won't be an issue

Any idea when I should trim the bacopa and the red mac japan to make more plants?
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Update:

Hey everyone! Wow my last update was way back in November. Looking at the pictures from then to now what a difference a few months make!

I haven't really been able to maintain this the way that I would like, however it's been chugging along quite well. I have managed to open it at least once a week for 10-15 minutes to allow for air/co2 exchange and to remist the plants, but I haven't really taken any photos until I got in today.

Today I trimmed the plants and replanted many of the stems that I trimmed. Everyone seems happy and healthy which makes me happy.

So I guess I'll get on with some pictures.

Dwarf Baby Tears are spreading nicely, I trimmed and replanted a few to try to get it to fill in a bit more, and started seeding another bin with it.



The crypts and B monnieri are doing well, I trimmed and replanted them, the crypts are spreading a bit.



The PCS are doing ok, but I'm not happy really with their development. The Rot Mac Jap red is doing well. Not growing as fast as the other stems but it's doing good.



Here's the overall view.



This has been a fun project! Please feel free to comment or sub to this thread, I'll try to get an update in once a month, now that I'm starting to feel a little bit better.
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