Sherryazure

PS... your set up looks beautiful... what type of lights are those if you don't mind? Thanks S

jonny_ftm

Many thanks for your link, didn't read fully yet, but will be, it looks passionating

Lights are the Arcadia 11W arcpods, two of them

Now, I have one new question:

I'd like to grow moss on the woods. Do you think that they could do it emersed without daily misting in +80% humidity? I only saw emersed moss with waterfalls or water recipients in contact, but would really like to put there my weeping and christmas moss that I'm growing submerged in small containers close to the window

Holy Samosa

Hey Johnny: Your tank looks great! Hopefully, this isn't hijacking your thread but how's your experience been with growing your submerged mosses in the window?

jonny_ftm

Sorry to be late, missed the post.

The weeping moss did great. The Christmas was invaded by green algae despite daily WC using a 10%of my EI dosed aquarium + 90% distilled. However, they grew greatly during 6 weeks and rather quickely.

Now, here's the tank, immersed on 7 nov after 4.5 months emersed











I missed the scaping on the right, I'll have to change the anubia and java moss disposition later

snail_chen

I didn't know Downoi can also be kept emerged. Do they grow faster?

jonny_ftm

Hi,

They get an emersed ugly unstructred form. Since I submerged them, they got a nicer emersed form like we all like. I finally found that they grow much better submerged and also far faster in my case despite 11W instead of the 22W of light they had when emersed

bratyboy2

any news on this tank?

jonny_ftm

Hi,

Yes, here are some news

First, continuing P. Helferi adaptation, it showed an incredible variation: albino new growth



Then, after few weeks:







Albino leaves never rotted, they turned again green from center/base to top/sides
I think it was an adaptation phase to the immersion due to teh abrupt change in CO2/O2/temperature/moisture...

It's not an iron/micro issue like many could think as it grew 4.5 months emersed, so only feeding with roots from the soil, but really an adaptation process. This plant is incredible. As you see, new growth has again the nice submerged form instead of the ugly emersed form it had.

Anubia had more difficulty to adapt with many rotted leaves once submerged.

Eleocharis grows much taller once submerged. Leaves were much shorter when emersed

Light was decreased to 1xPLL 11W instead of 2x11W in emersed phase, yet I find the growth faster then when it was submerged. So now, I'm very low light: 11w/12 gal (0.9 wpg)

About algae, starting was a complete success, no algae, except the usual brown algae short visit then green hair only on moss (it was on the moss when put in water) that went by its self. None of the other plants was affected. Also, on start, had a BGA issue that needed erythromycine (actually, clarithromycine in my case). It was my error as I didn't remove organics from soil before immersion.

I had to remove the rocks because they were very calcareous and the KH and GH were very unstable
Used petrified wood instead

Eleocharis was never trimmed till now, only delimited to not invade the front. Glosso is growing so slowly, but it roots and grows. Very low light doesn't help, but CO2 does help. Hopefully I will prove that we can carpet glosso with so low light. Sadely, I didn't grow it emersed as I didn't plan at first to cover all soil.

954baby

I've never had luck with P. helfari, your tank looks amazing. gl

oscarjamayaa

Awsome experiment, the change is noticible in underwater conditions.