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Wheeler · 12-22-2006, 11:26 PM

The VAST majority of the demographic from the ADA contest is Asian, and certainly not of this forum. Why would you bring up ADA? For that matter, 1 USA applicant placed in the AGA contest in any category in any category except paludarium.

This is about growing plants, not aquascaping as you pointed out. I'm trying to keep this on topic. People can listen to me or not. Bottom line is I don't care except to put a wrinkle in the status quo. I'll carry on regardless.

MY point is that EI is NOT a good place to start and certainly NOT the gold standard. No one said anything about equipment except me when I said:
"The pics of average folks' tanks on forums from other countries FAR surpass ours, and, IMO, the main reason is not technology, or substrates, or any of that garbage"

And my point was that they don't feel like they *need* 30 parts CO2 in order not to have algae, or to grow plants best, etc...

Other forums? AQ and MAC are my main sources. Again, I don't know what you mean about demographics...

Hey, I played baseball... I'm still pretty good at it at this late date. Wanna know, why? Yeah, maybe you don't want to advance the hobby with your questions, but your motivation isn't "fun". I wouldn't call water changes and pruning "fun", nor testing, or leveling gravel, explaining to the significant other where the money went, driving 80 miles to the LFS, etc. We do it because it's stimulating for our brain and easy on our eyes, beautiful for our living room, etc... At least I do. If I'm alone then I'm guilty of being a blowhard. Still... Chasing a ball is "fun". Looking at an aquarium isn't really. There are 1000 other adjectives, but not "fun".

I find Amano's measurements to be pretty consistent. To get back on topic, HAHA... I wonder what *your* sources are because I can't find anywhere that Amano says he has .1mg/l CO2. What is your source? Are you suggesting that Amano's plants don't get enough Carbon?

Further, his water quality certainly doesn't translate to the rest of Japan, nor the world.

I'm really curious what you mean about the ADA contest demographic.

12-22-2006, 11:26 PM	#21 (permalink)
Wheeler Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 105 iTrader Ratings: 0 Plant Points: 5600	The VAST majority of the demographic from the ADA contest is Asian, and certainly not of this forum. Why would you bring up ADA? For that matter, 1 USA applicant placed in the AGA contest in any category in any category except paludarium. This is about growing plants, not aquascaping as you pointed out. I'm trying to keep this on topic. People can listen to me or not. Bottom line is I don't care except to put a wrinkle in the status quo. I'll carry on regardless. MY point is that EI is NOT a good place to start and certainly NOT the gold standard. No one said anything about equipment except me when I said: "The pics of average folks' tanks on forums from other countries FAR surpass ours, and, IMO, the main reason is not technology, or substrates, or any of that garbage" And my point was that they don't feel like they need 30 parts CO2 in order not to have algae, or to grow plants best, etc... Other forums? AQ and MAC are my main sources. Again, I don't know what you mean about demographics... Hey, I played baseball... I'm still pretty good at it at this late date. Wanna know, why? Yeah, maybe you don't want to advance the hobby with your questions, but your motivation isn't "fun". I wouldn't call water changes and pruning "fun", nor testing, or leveling gravel, explaining to the significant other where the money went, driving 80 miles to the LFS, etc. We do it because it's stimulating for our brain and easy on our eyes, beautiful for our living room, etc... At least I do. If I'm alone then I'm guilty of being a blowhard. Still... Chasing a ball is "fun". Looking at an aquarium isn't really. There are 1000 other adjectives, but not "fun". I find Amano's measurements to be pretty consistent. To get back on topic, HAHA... I wonder what your sources are because I can't find anywhere that Amano says he has .1mg/l CO2. What is your source? Are you suggesting that Amano's plants don't get enough Carbon? Further, his water quality certainly doesn't translate to the rest of Japan, nor the world. I'm really curious what you mean about the ADA contest demographic.