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Old 01-11-2008, 06:18 PM   #21
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Default Re: Difference?: ADA Aqua Soil Amazonia & ADA Aqua Soil Amazonia II


I guess that you know that 9 liters = 549.213697 cubic inches.

Each inch of Aqua Soil's depth is 864 cubic inches in a 48" x 18" foot print.

So for a 3" substrate depth, you will need 2592 cubic inches.

This is 4.72 bags of Amazonia II Aqua Soil or roughly 4 x 9L bags plus 2 x 3L bags.

I'd probably get either 4 or 5 of the 9L bags.


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Old 01-18-2008, 01:06 AM   #22
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I think 90 gals are even bigger foot prints right?

If so, I think maybe about 7-9 bags would be right, xD

Oh, getting 2 bags of AS for my 60P. ADG suggests one, but i really want a slope and also want to save extra to grow emersed stuff and maybe another tank.
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Old 01-18-2008, 06:00 AM   #23
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I've used aquasoil amazonia original on 3 tanks. I am getting aquasoil amazonia 2 today and will be setting up two 10 gallons for CRS. I will let you know my experiences with it.
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Old 01-18-2008, 11:05 PM   #24
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Default Re: Difference?: ADA Aqua Soil Amazonia & ADA Aqua Soil Amazonia II

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I've got my ADA stuffs home some days ago. I bought Amazonia original, PowerSand Special, Tourmaline BC, Clear Super and Bacter 100. Also some ADA ferts. I've never tried this before, it'll be very fun!

Leonard, did you order your ADA from Europe? Just wondering because last time I was in sverige I didn't see any ADA products.
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Old 01-19-2008, 12:33 AM   #25
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I'm gonna be ordering AS II. It's darker and also isn't as bad initially for new tanks right?
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Old 01-19-2008, 03:31 AM   #26
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Leonard, did you order your ADA from Europe? Just wondering because last time I was in sverige I didn't see any ADA products.
It's not sold in Sweden. I bought from Germany: http://www.naturaquarien.de/shop/docs/start.htm
It's not ordinary in Sweden, only around 6 persons (including me) who has it in here

I have started my shrimp tank with AS now and I'm changing water every second day right now =) Have had it for little more than 1 week today.
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I'm gonna be ordering AS II. It's darker and also isn't as bad initially for new tanks right?
AS II will still leach ammonia into your water column so you have to do frequent water changes for a while to clear the ammonia. AS II is also not supposed to cloud the water or harden the water like AS.

Some say that they tried both original and AS II and found no difference between the two as far as plant growth, others say that they found AS original to give better plant growth than the AS II. And still others point out that unlike the AS original, the AS II is less nutrient rich owing to the fact that ADA reduced the total black soil organic component in order to address some of the water hardening and clouding issues associated with the AS original. Many critics say that this is not a good thing as this means that the AS II will run out of nutrients sooner than the original. Personally, I don't see why this would be a big issue if you dose water column ferts. I am using EI with and AS II experimental tank and have yet to see problems, although it is too soon. I also have some AS original on stand by for testing to compare differences, but this is going to have to wait as I don't currently have any more room to set up any more tanks. Howie stated that he has used AS original and will be trying AS II, so it will be interesting to see what he finds.
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Old 01-20-2008, 12:04 AM   #28
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Default Re: Difference?: ADA Aqua Soil Amazonia & ADA Aqua Soil Amazonia II

Ohh, yeah, me too. If AS is better, I don't mind the clouding issues, and would actually like the hardening since I think my water is pretty soft.

I did email Jeff though and he said that AS II should be fine as he gets great growth. I don't think it's much of a difference either... People do well with SMS right?
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Default Re: Difference?: ADA Aqua Soil Amazonia & ADA Aqua Soil Amazonia II

i just put ada amazonia II into my tank today.
instructions on the bag says do not rinse.

BIG mistake following those directions.
cloudiness galore. the tank looks like chocolate milk. you can't see 3 inches into the tank. i took out my vortex filter and let it run for a bit. two hours later it still isn't clear. if i try to move the substrate to flatten it out or whatever, it clouds up again.
i should've rinsed.........
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Old 01-20-2008, 02:47 AM   #30
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O_O
I thought AS II was supposed to not cloud like AS did.
Well, most people don't rinse anyways and let the dust settle.
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