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Old 03-18-2009, 12:39 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Im setting up a 75 gallon tank and I am wondering which substrate is better. (Eco-complete or Aqua soil). Also how much will I need for my tank.
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Old 03-18-2009, 02:46 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: Eco-complete vs. aqua soil

Personally, I prefer AquaSoil but I have had great success using either one.

If you follow the "1 pound substrate to 1 gallon of water" rule, then you will need 75 pounds of substrate. I like mine a little deeper in the substrate category, and would make it an even 100lbs. I think that is about 4-5 bags of Eco Complete (I can't remember if they come in 20lb or 25lb bags) or about two of the large bags of AquaSoil.

I never could understand why AquaSoil come is Liter sizes as that is measurement of volume and not weight. To each his own, right?
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Default Re: Eco-complete vs. aqua soil

I thinking of using Bacter 100, Power sand Medium, 4 bags of amazonia 2 (9 liters) normal, and 2 amazonia 2 (3 liters).
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Default Re: Eco-complete vs. aqua soil

Well, so be it.

If you can teach me how to convert a "volume" into a "mass" measurement, I would be very grateful! HA!

I would think that you would certainly have more than enough substrate in there if you followed that plan, Knotty! I'm not sure if you would need the Bacter as the PowerSand already has bacteria in it, but GO FOR IT!!!!!
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Default Re: Eco-complete vs. aqua soil

I've used both as well and in 75g tanks.

The aquasoil has the benefit of lowering pH/hardness of the water which is usefull if your using tap and it is hard. I have read posts regarding clouding problems regarding the Amazonia II. I think some discerned it was a bad batch of the II version. I also have read posts that claim that Amazonia I is superior to II. The aquasoil I used was already used and grew great plants. With the aquasoil you will have a big ammonia spike which will benefit plants but not fish so you will need to hold off until it levels out.

With the eco-complete I have also grown plants like crazy and have never had the cloudy water problem. In fact, the water has been crystal clear and doesn't cloud with significant rescaping. There have been bad batches of eco as well so you should insure that the grain coloration is dark and consistent as the bad batches were reported to be mixed/irregular in color and ended up raising the hardness and pH of the water.
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Default Re: Eco-complete vs. aqua soil

Ok im thinking i might just go with eco complete. Donald, I just went to http://www.adana-usa.com then click on shop then on substrate. They give you this chart that shows how many bags to use.
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Default Re: Eco-complete vs. aqua soil

Oh yes, I remember said "chart." I just used Amazonia II and the two of the biggest bags they had. I just needed it as a "layer" in the substrate as I have used four additional substances for my substrate as well.

I never had an issue with "cloudiness" with the water using Amazonia II. I have heard of tainted bags of Eco-Complete as well which end up clouding the water and killing fish. I prefer the Amazonia II as it provides a bit more in the way of nutrients for the roots, but again, I've had good success using Eco as well. Just don't get the Eco "Onyx"; it will raise your carbonate hardness considerably!!! Even Onyx is not "awful," but I wouldn't buy it again.
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Oh yes, I remember said "chart." I just used Amazonia II and the two of the biggest bags they had. I just needed it as a "layer" in the substrate as I have used four additional substances for my substrate as well.

I never had an issue with "cloudiness" with the water using Amazonia II. I have heard of tainted bags of Eco-Complete as well which end up clouding the water and killing fish. I prefer the Amazonia II as it provides a bit more in the way of nutrients for the roots, but again, I've had good success using Eco as well. Just don't get the Eco "Onyx"; it will raise your carbonate hardness considerably!!! Even Onyx is not "awful," but I wouldn't buy it again.
I agree, I had no cloudiness with amazonia II. I think it might depend on what patch you got.
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Alright is there any way to tell or is it just the luck of the draw.
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And am I putting them down in the right order. Power sand, aqua soil, powder.
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