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Old 06-19-2010, 07:22 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Great minds think alike. Iíve used gelatin capsules in my substrate for more than 3 weeks in an experimental aquarium. I bought a capsule machine kit for size 0 and made a batch of 24 caps. With the kit, these capsules are very easy to fill, and give me many choices of mixed ferts, plus the convenience of storing them in a bottle at room temp and use whenever needed. They work great for heavy root feeders like sword, although other plants may benefit from some nutrients in the water column.

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Beside the rich mineral contents, the casting also has lots of beneficial bacteria for plant roots. I used it straight in the substrate. Why boil and destroy the goodies.
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Old 06-19-2010, 08:08 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Great minds think alike. I’ve used gelatin capsules in my substrate for more than 3 weeks in an experimental aquarium. I bought a capsule machine kit for size 0 and made a batch of 24 caps. With the kit, these capsules are very easy to fill, and give me many choices of mixed ferts, plus the convenience of storing them in a bottle at room temp and use whenever needed. They work great for heavy root feeders like sword, although other plants may benefit from some nutrients in the water column.

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Beside the rich mineral contents, the casting also has lots of beneficial bacteria for plant roots. I used it straight in the substrate. Why boil and destroy the goodies.
I agree about your remarks on castings, they are great. Beneficial bacteria in casting helps the plants, but that bacteria grows in the air- aerobic. What happens to the bacteria when it goes into the water?- I don't know. It may transforms to anaerobic, or may die. This is a science. I would post this question on Tom Barr's website. Capsules is the best solution for substrate fertilization, in my opinion. I would not want to keep dirt fertilizers in the freezer, where the food kept. Size 000 (triple zero) capsules are the biggest and able to fit few grams of fertilizer mixture. This is good and clean solution.Do you know any good inexpensive place to buy gelatin capsules online? If you do, please share. I don't know about boiling them is actually needed or not. Don't forget that castings beside bacteria also have fungi, that may or may not be beneficial. But if you get good results without boiling them, then probably that's even better. Regards

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I agree about your remarks on castings, they are great. Beneficial bacteria in casting helps the plants, but that bacteria grows in the air- aerobic. What happens to the bacteria when it goes into the water?- I don't know. It may transforms to anaerobic, or may die. This is a science. I would post this question on Tom Barr's website. Capsules is the best solution for substrate fertilization, in my opinion. I would not want to keep dirt fertilizers in the freezer, where the food kept. Size 000 (triple zero) capsules are the biggest and able to fit few grams of fertilizer mixture. This is good and clean solution.Do you know any good inexpensive place to buy gelatin capsules online? If you do, please share. I don't know about boiling them is actually needed or not. Don't forget that castings beside bacteria also have fungi, that may or may not be beneficial. But if you get good results without boiling them, then probably that's even better. Regards
Concern for mold/fungi is valid. Worm casting that appears moldy and is smelly should not be used. Good worm casting is mostly odorless, rich black in color. As for bacteria, there are two types: aerobic and anaerobic. Worm guts harbor anaerobic bacteria which are passed on to the casting as it exits the worm. When the conditions are not ideal, the bacteria become dormant. The casting has a good mix of aerobic & anaerobic bacteria.

Here is the site where I purchased the kit and gelatin capsules. They also have the biggest size 000.

http://www.luckyvitamin.com/p-948-no...n=mbuyswebrec&

I would caution to use too much Osmocot even if it is a slow released fertilizer for soil on land. I did a dissolubility test by using 4 parts water & 1 part Osmocot Plus. Let the mixture sit overnight. The next morning, TDS rose from 81 ppm (tap water before adding fert) to 460 ppm (with Osmocot added). Under the watery substrate, the fertilizer would continually leach from the granules into the substrate and then into water. The implication would be toxicity to fish and algae bloom when they are used in large quantity. Plants prefer regular feeding in small amount, so monitor water parameters, plants and fish to decide the proper amount to use in your aquarium.
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I'm making my own root tabs. After using Seachem Flourish root tabs for years, I finally read the ingredients. Since then I went out and bought a bottle of Osmocoat Plus and put a 1/2 tsp in my ice cube trays with 5 ml of tank water, and freeze overnight. The results are app. twice the nutrients, at a very cost effective price. According to the information on Osmocoat, the nutrients take up to 6 months to dissipate. However, at the unit cost level, it would not matter, if they lasted half that time.
My swords seem greatly improved!!!
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My Q is: how many such ice cubes do I need for a 55 gallon tank ? What a great idea Rockster.

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good info. i will give osmocoat plus a try
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Osmocote Plus with some empty gel tabs on ebay, $3.99 for 100 pcs, free shipping works well with me.
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Osmocote Plus with some empty gel tabs on ebay, $3.99 for 100 pcs, free shipping works well with me.
I just got it today and yes I bought them on Ebay, but I do not have the Osmocote Plus yet..............comes next week from Amazon. I make my own cigarettes so , it will not be a problem filling the gel caps
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this is a great idea...no more buying flourish tabs for me...got the osmocote plus and the empty gel tabs the other day and spent like an hour filling them up...now time to wait and see how well they work...thanks for the ideas guys
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