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Old 03-13-2003, 06:35 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Hello everyone!!! Thanks for having me!!!

Anyway, I will be setting up a 110 gal tank for some large fish (pacus, arrowana, pleco) I would like to carpet the tank with a combo of 2/3 different types of grasses/mosses...Im looking for prolific/hardy types easy to maintain...I will be creating low caves and may add some driftwood, but Im not looking for height with regards to decoration so that I can maximize swimming room for the fish..Im not interested in taller plants which can be easily pulled and uprooted...I plan to aquascape the tank and establish the plant growth for a month or so, before adding fish...though a fish keeper all my life, Im new to acquascaping, so any suugestions on grasses/mosses will be appreciated...Ill be following up with questions on the media to use in the tank and on fertilizing... Thanks for your help!!!
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Hello everyone!!! Thanks for having me!!!

Anyway, I will be setting up a 110 gal tank for some large fish (pacus, arrowana, pleco) I would like to carpet the tank with a combo of 2/3 different types of grasses/mosses...Im looking for prolific/hardy types easy to maintain...I will be creating low caves and may add some driftwood, but Im not looking for height with regards to decoration so that I can maximize swimming room for the fish..Im not interested in taller plants which can be easily pulled and uprooted...I plan to aquascape the tank and establish the plant growth for a month or so, before adding fish...though a fish keeper all my life, Im new to acquascaping, so any suugestions on grasses/mosses will be appreciated...Ill be following up with questions on the media to use in the tank and on fertilizing... Thanks for your help!!!
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Old 03-13-2003, 12:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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fcapps,

welcome to the board!

First up, a fully carpeted lower section is not easy. You'll need a lot of light. How high is the 110g tank you have? If its more than 2ft high, it will be necessary to get PC or MH lighting.

Having said that, one of the easiest foreground plants to grow is the dwarf chain sword (Echin. tenellus). Some java moss tied to the driftwood would certainly complement the look.

As the fish you intend to keep are rather large, it would be very advantageous if you let the plants establish and grow before adding any of the fish.

It will be necessary to add a little CO2 and ferts to the tank. The amount necessary will be dependent on the lighting levels and amount of plants...

Side note: arent pacus herbivores?
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Fish for a plant tank:
Arrowanna yes, the others, no.
You can try and see what they like to eat but plan on losing some plants.
Bolbitus is a good bet.
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Thanks...Do you think Bolbitus is unlikely to be eaten? how tall will it grow?..I realize many on my fish are herbivores..I guess I was thinking that I would establish good growth and then the fish would "graze" without compromising much of the look..perhaps this was stupid thinking...

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Not stupid thinking, just wishful thinking.

The pleco may not be herbivorous, Even if he isn't then his rummaging around will do a lot of damage. I doubt there's any way that you can get plant growth to stay ahead of the pacu. It isn't just a matter of appearance.

Bolbitis are ferns with tough leaves that don't seem like they would be very interesting to an herbivor. It needs to be attached to wood and the pleco may not allow that to happen.

A lot of the other fish that we usually consider appropriate for a planted tank would probably just be food for the arowana.


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thanks Roger...Im gonna try Bolbitus, Java moss, Hairgrass, and Dwarf swords which I are understand are easy to keep and are quite prolific..Im going to aquascape the tank and keep it empty for about a month, then add my fish..am I correct that the bolbitus and moss need to be attached to driftwood? will they also grow on rock? when you say attached..tie them on? fertilizer? CO2 to the water? peat in a basket of one of the canster filters?..to all of you outhere doing this for a while you are probably thinking plant genocide...given all my herbivores...but its worth a shot..maybe just maybe two of the four species of plants will survive...if so ill add additons of these to make up for the loss...hey we live, we learn ill keep anyone posted..

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The Pacu, for one, will probably get too large
for a 110 gallon tank. These fish get enormous!
Secondly, your plants won't stand a chance
against the Pacu... don't expect the dwarf
swords or hairgrass to last very long.

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I bought my pacus (2)small and they are maxed out(about 6 inches) in a 30 gallon..its tight,but they are doing well...(i do frequent water changes) the 110 is three times what they are in and will do the job for a few years..unfortunately im not in a position to get a 500 gallon tank for these fish..I'm passing on the hairgrass and swords..and will stick to java moss and bolbitis...ll see what happens...thanks!
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fcapps,

Pacu get to be in the area of 3-4 feet long and weigh in over thirty lbs when all's said and done. Are you sure you don't have Silver Dollars? They both look awfully similar when small, but the Silver Dollar stays much smaller.

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