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Old 04-08-2003, 07:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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I recently got into planted tanks and actually have 2 Id like to plant. The first is a 20 gallon tall tank. Currently has very few plants but I will be getting more but I wanted some advice or suggestions from you guys. I will be upgrading the lighting on the 20 from 2 fluorescents to 2 fluorescents and a 55w pc light. I also have DIY co2 installed and some seachem substrate. Im thinking about changing the substrate to onyx sand due to the better color. I want to create the illusion that the tank is longer and wider than it is.

For the second tank I will be creating a micro predator planted tank. The main predator being a dwarf pike cichlid. For this tank I was considering doing a "lawn" of riccia a piece of driftwood and some tall plants in the background. Any and all advice or suggestions would be great thanks a bunch guys.
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I recently got into planted tanks and actually have 2 Id like to plant. The first is a 20 gallon tall tank. Currently has very few plants but I will be getting more but I wanted some advice or suggestions from you guys. I will be upgrading the lighting on the 20 from 2 fluorescents to 2 fluorescents and a 55w pc light. I also have DIY co2 installed and some seachem substrate. Im thinking about changing the substrate to onyx sand due to the better color. I want to create the illusion that the tank is longer and wider than it is.

For the second tank I will be creating a micro predator planted tank. The main predator being a dwarf pike cichlid. For this tank I was considering doing a "lawn" of riccia a piece of driftwood and some tall plants in the background. Any and all advice or suggestions would be great thanks a bunch guys.
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Old 04-09-2003, 01:33 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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no one has any thoughts? please someone help out a newbie to this awesome hobby
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There is lots of great tanks on this site that you might be able to get ideas from!

http://showcase.aquatic-gardeners.org/

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Old 04-09-2003, 03:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
 
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ptahkeem,

There are at least two different standard-sized tanks that might be called a "20 tall." What are the actual dimensions of your tank?

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Old 04-09-2003, 04:45 PM   #6 (permalink)
 
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hey roger
the dimensions are 24"x12"x18" im not sure about the height its either 18" or 16". hopefully this helps
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Probably 16" high. I consider that to be a standard 20; a friend of mine has a twenty that is taller with a smaller foot print.

That's a fairly nice tank for aquascaping. The 24"X12" floor space has a pretty good aspect. The only problem with it is that by growing large, tall plants you can easily shade everything in the tank. You need to avoid plants like H. corymbosa and many sword plants just get too big.

Two 20-watt fluoresents produces a fairly low-light tank, but that's what I use on mine. Adding a 55 watt to that would make a very bright tank. How about using the 55W PC alone (assuming it has a reflector) ?

Onyx might look good. That is entirely a matter of taste. Often planted tanks are laid out so that when things are grown in the substrate is not very noticable.

To aquascape effectively in that tank you need to work with small and small-leaved plants.


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Old 04-09-2003, 06:12 PM   #8 (permalink)
 
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what plants do you suggest for the tank? i was thinking of using the usual ground cover for the front such as riccia and glosso but i havent really given much thought to the plants for the mid and back ground. i was also contemplating using a piece of driftwood and some rocks to accent the plants. as for the lights you dont recommend going over the 2w/gallon rule?

another question i have was for the 10 gallon i want to plant. how many watts would you recommend for this tank? i am planning on doing the entire fore ground with riccia and creating some hills and terraces with a piece of driftwood in the middle and a few mid/background plants. i was considering either using 2 15w fluorescent bulbs or getting a pc set up for this as well. thanks for the advice roger.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ptahkeem:
what plants do you suggest for the tank? i was thinking of using the usual ground cover for the front such as riccia and glosso but i havent really given much thought to the plants for the mid and back ground.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
The usual foregrounds work. I would lean more to lileaopsis and marsilea as they grow slower than some and require less work. Otherwise, most stem plants will work very well and can be trimmed to varying heights. Small crypts, like C. lucens and C. parva should do well. Small Echinodorus like E. quadricostata and possibly "compacta" (if you can find the real thing) should also do well.

[QOUTE]i was also contemplating using a piece of driftwood and some rocks to accent the plants.[/QUOTE]
Rather than using them to accent the plants you should use driftwood or stones to provide the main structure of the aquascape.[/QUOTE]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> as for the lights you dont recommend going over the 2w/gallon rule?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
One 55w CF is over the 2 w/gallon rule and it should work fine. The CF plus 40 watts of NO fluorescent gets you up to 4.75 watts/gallon and I don't recommend that you go that high.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>another question i have was for the 10 gallon i want to plant. how many watts would you recommend for this tank?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I get very good results using 2 15W NO fluorescents over 10 gallon tanks. You can get more light by using a smaller wattage of CF lights with good reflectors.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>i am planning on doing the entire fore ground with riccia and creating some hills and terraces with a piece of driftwood in the middle and a few mid/background plants.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
That sounds fine. A 10 gallon tank is pretty small for doing much in the way of hills and terracing, so you may want to keep that pretty simple.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>i was considering either using 2 15w fluorescent bulbs or getting a pc set up for this as well.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
2 15W fluorescents will work. I suspect that you will be happier with CFs. Maybe something like 2 13W CFs with reflectors. Good reflectors are the important part.

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Old 04-10-2003, 01:49 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
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thanks for all the wonderful advice. itll come in handy for sure. i have one question about the onyx sand though. what ph will it keep the water at? i heard that it is a buffer?
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