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Old 04-05-2005, 04:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Lately, there has been some discussion about the various forums and their roles at APC. Over time, many of us have strayed from the original intent of specific forums and to a more generalized use which makes searching and finding old posts difficult. With this in mind, I think it is time to remind everyone, myself included, just what the aquascaping forum is for.

The Aquascaping Forum is dedicated to learning about and furthering the art of aquascaping. All posts should be directly related to this. Please, post photos of your tanks, but only if you want help, critique or as a demonstration of the setup and progression of your planted aquarium (ie, Journals). ANY photo posted in the aquascaping forum will be subject to judgment and critique, for learning's sake. If you just want to show off your tank without comment or critique, please post in the General Plants Discussion Forum.

Please try to be an inspiration to others, even if beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We are all here to learn about making our aquariums beautiful and everything in the Aquascaping Forum should be about that.Try to take as good of photos as you can, but remember very few of us are good photographers. Just do the best you can. Equipment in the tank is fine, these don't have to be contest pics.

When responding to posts.....Please try to be as helpful and informative as possible. Please try to avoid one-liners. Its nice to hear your aquarium looks nice, but try to give a paragraph, 3-5 sentences, about WHY it looks nice. Remember, all tanks posted here are for critique, inspiration and to further the techniques and skills need to create beautiful aquascapes. Your opinions are important, sharing ideas and personal opinions are what allow us all to learn together. Having a strong Aquascaping Forum is one of the things that makes APC stand apart and with your help, we can make this the best place on the web!

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By definition, if beauty is in the eye of the beholder, then critiques of aquascapes or any other form of art is pointless.

I would like to remind everyone that the point of the aquascaping forum is to destroy, trample. and otherwise mutilate the idea that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. This concept will be allowed to exist outside of the forum, but within the forum, it will not be tolerated. If you cannot stand to have your aquarium be critiqued by others, do not post it in this forum.

In the reverse, unconstructive criticism or insulting comments will not be tolerated. If you point out something wrong in another aquarium, you have to explain why it is wrong. Example, you may think an aquascape would look better with a background /because/ it creates depth. Simple.

Please provide constructive criticism and not only praise. It is just as important to point out something wrong that the aquascaper may have not seen as much as it is to point out something right. In this way, we can try to build the best aquascaping forum on the internet.

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Old 04-07-2005, 01:21 AM   #3 (permalink)
 
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Dennis -Carlos.
i really dont understand the point of the posts....
what you say is if you just want to show off your tanks and not hear comments or critiques post to the other forum...what you mean by that?i think its obvious when somebody sends a photo of his tank wants to hear the opinion of the others right???is that so necessary to mention on his post the word comment or critique?
and i think that any scape is inspiration to others.
Thanks for making this clear to me.
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If you post on the aquascaping forum, then you can expect critiques and constructive criticism from other members (unless it is so amazingly good that we cannot find anything wrong with it). Even then, we can make suggestions on what to change and alter in the existing aquascape to give it a different look or appearance. This is one of the purposes of the aquascaping forum.

Not everyone is willing to have their tank be torn apart so to speak. If you want your tank to be glorified and praised only then post on another part of the forum. If you are willing to let your tank be analyzed and commented on for improvement, post here.

Hope this makes things clear,

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so as far as i understand someboby complained about people making critique in his tank(s)!cause there is no other way to understand if somebody send a pic only to show off his tank.
thanks for letting me know.
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I don't believe that there were any complaints, it was just a possibility and a reality that was considered. I know I personally am not fond of critique, and am aware that others aren't either. I think it was more of a way to provide this information in the case that there are others that might be sensitive to the critique -- just to make them aware.
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well i like the way you think about it BUT....i believe this is all wrong!!i dont want to be the wise guy but think about it!ok lets say that the aquascape forum is only for that purpose.so if somebody post a pic of his tank in the general forum it wont be a subject of critique overthere too??personally if i see a nice tank and something is not good or whatever ill post my opinion about it!OR you maybe consider the general forum only as a show off room only to look at the pictures without post anything or just say that it looks nice.
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I think I may be able to clear some murky water. Dennis' post is a direct result of a discussion I sponsored on some of the stronger and weaker areas of APC. These areas were pointed out by a considerable cross section of the members polled. Traditionally APC has been quite strong in Aquascaping discussion. The man that lead the direction of the Aquascaping forum and well as the Plant Finder, Carlos, blazed a new trail. We had a group in place that we thought would continue down the same trail, a trail I may add that was well received by the members. However, life intervened and understandably certain commitments had to change. With the addition of Dennis to the moderating team and some other plans we have we are working to get back on the trail.

Look back over the archives and read some of the older interviews and articles form the Aquascaping forum. I think you find them inspiring and indicative of things to come.
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OR you maybe consider the general forum only as a show off room only to look at the pictures without post anything or just say that it looks nice.
Exactly! The General forum is the place for that type of post. The aquascaping forum is for the detailed critique and information directly related to the concept and art of aquascaping.

Gnatster and Carlos,... Thank you for helping me express what I was trying to say. Sometimes it is hard for me to be diplomatic yet still get my point across.

Also, I want to reiterate that what one types is their only face on the web. It is all that people see. Slang and blatantly improper grammar/punctuation is hard and annoying to read. Its like trying to decipher code. Not everyone is a English major (I certainly need all the help I can get and we all certainly understand that for many here, English is a 2nd or 3rd language) but everyone should at least put some effort into it. That was part of my point in the final paragraph of my original post.
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i have seen those old pages with interviews and yeah they are intresting.but really i dont understand whats the purpose of the aquascaping forum.please gnaster tell me whats the old trail since i cant see any difrence exept the interview threads that have been posted b y carlos.
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ps:i really dont see the reason for changing something in the forum.
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