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Old 03-29-2004, 12:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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i've had a successful planted tank using 1 inch of potting soil covered by 1 inch of gravel. but when i tore it down, it stunk so bad!!!
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People have talked about turface black, which sounds interesting. I thought about adding peat, but I am worried about it getting in the water column. For my next tank (10 gallon, high light) I might try turface black, if I can find it, and seachem root tabs. I like the root tabs because they don't break apart. I might try putting them 2" apart compared to the recommended 4".
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Why waste time and have to do extra work with the root tabs and all when one bag of eco complete will do a 10 gallon. It s a bit pricier but for 25 bucks
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Actually I did something today not characteristic of me.... I set up a 20 gal tank with Shultz Aquatic Soil. I'm impressed, its nice stuff. I only needed 15 pounds of the stuff (I expected to use 40 pounds (2 pounds/gal)). The plants went into the gravel easily. It wasn't too light, and it held the plants well, and the color is pretty nifty.

I may use some more of it. Its a lot easier to use than soil.
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I thought the seachem tabs contained much higher CEC than Eco-complete and other gravels,
http://www.aquabotanic.com/plantfer.htm
http://home.infinet.net/teban/jamie.htm
I like the idea of heavy fertilization in the soil to add to your water column fertilization.
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People have talked about turface black, which sounds interesting. I thought about adding peat, but I am worried about it getting in the water column. For my next tank (10 gallon, high light) I might try turface black, if I can find it, and seachem root tabs. I like the root tabs because they don't break apart. I might try putting them 2" apart compared to the recommended 4".
IU, broham, let me know when you find that turface black, I wanna get in on the action, been searching with no luck, are you going to mix it with diamond black too?

if you add peat, don't add too much, and put it on the very bottom and you're good to go...
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I thought the seachem tabs contained much higher CEC than Eco-complete and other gravels,
http://www.aquabotanic.com/plantfer.htm
http://home.infinet.net/teban/jamie.htm
I like the idea of heavy fertilization in the soil to add to your water column fertilization.
it's continuous information like this that constantly affirms my belief that all you need is inert sand or gravel and supplement with root tabs and you can have a lush lush tank without the flourite or eco
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I don't know about the diamond black, I have to look into it. I need to ask Eric if it stays together like the root tabs do. I uproot to many plants to mess with soil additives that could mess up my clear water. I am looking, so I will let you know if I find anything.

http://www.profileproducts.com/turface/tfp_1.html
http://www.thekrib.com/Plants/Fertilizer/profile.html#6
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<Hi. Does anyone know of a source of turface in the greater Seattle
area? I'd order it online but the shipping charges are nuts.
Thanks, Laurel>

Call the number below and they will be glad to tell you.

Profile Products LLC
750 Lake Cook Road, Suite 440
Buffalo Grove, IL 60089

800-207-6457

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another interesting diy substrate i've come across is the use of zeolite... I'm looking around to find more info on it...
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I used leonardite ore (lignite) rather than the brand name diamond black, and it is a very fine black powder.
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