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Old 06-10-2003, 02:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Yesterday I finally broke down, went out to Home Depot and bought all the wood I should need and some screws.

SUPPLIES:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>1 - 3/4" plywood ($27)
<LI>1 - 1/2" plywood ($20)
<LI>2 - 1/2" sheet of birch (2x$36 = $72)
<LI>20 - Douglas Fir 2x4s. 8 feet long. (20x$2.44 = $49)
<LI>3 - 1 5/8" wood screws(1 pound box) (3x$4 = $12)
<LI>1 - 3" wood screws(5 pound box) ($17)
<LI>12 - door hinges (2x$1 = $12)
<LI>TOTAL: ($209)[/list]
* Keep in mind that some of this stuff will be returned (probably some of the 2x4s).


Tools used thus far:
<UL TYPE=SQUARE><LI>Hammer
<LI>Two drills, one with a phillips head bit and one with a drill bit.
<LI>Ratchet tie downs. I don't have large clamps, so these are a good/cheap alternative. Actually came in handy.
<LI>circular saw
<LI>Extension cord for each corded power tool (2 in my case)
<LI>A digital camera (really, don't forget this. You might forget to document steps as often)
<LI>A level
<LI>Square. I have one but can't find it. I had to use the corner of a sheet of plywood.
<LI>C-Clamps (5+"). These come in handy when you are trying to square things off. I used one so far.
<LI>Weights, I used some weights to hold pieces in place while I drill, trying to get things square, etc.[/list]
The first two images are the 2x4's and the sheets of plywood.

Here are 20 2x4s. I estimated 14 for the stand and so far the count is 10. I think I way over-estimated, but I'll be taking the left overs back anyways.


Here's the plywood:
one sheet of 3/4 plywood and 2 sheets of 1/2 high grade birch for the finish.


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http://www.geocities.com/kfh227- go there and see my future fish section to see what I have planned for my next 100+ gallon tank.
Note: I havn't maintained the site lately.

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Old 06-10-2003, 02:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
 
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Time to start building. Since the basement floor that this is eventually going to go in is un-even, I first had to start try to make the top corners square. I started by doing the back piece in case I made any mistakes, I wouldn't repeat them in places where it might become harder to fix. I started with the end support pieces only.


I finsihed the back piece by patiently placing additional 2x4 supports between the end pieces. Total over-kill, but it's just how I build stuff.


The next step was to add the bottom pieces on. This was a pain in the butt, just trying to get everything squared away.


Now I framed the face piece. There is a temporary board nailed into the top to hold everything in place temporarily.


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In between the front and back piece, I added a middle support. I actually think this was worth while. I just had to be VERY sure about making this piece so that the tops of all three support sections are perfectly level as to prevent bowing or a teeter-tawter(sp?) effect when the tank goes on. It was relatively easy to do actually, just by running 2x4s accross the top of the stand and using a scrap piece of 2x4 to mimic the top piece. Got out hte ol' tape measure and I got exact measurments. I jsut had to be VERY careful not to screw this step up.


Ah, the last photo. I added some bracing to prevent any back to forth motion that is not locked in. You can see this on the left and right side on the inside of the stand. Well, atleast it's visible on the right hand side. The left hand side does have a similar support. I also threw the top piece on. I can officially say that the top is 100% square!

The level on top is there to show that the stand will be level once placed in the basement it is going in. The good news is that after all this work, everything appears to be perfect!!! I guess the best advice is to plan, plan and plan some more until you can almost build the estand without needing your notes. I played with sketches for about one week.

I hope to have the stand construction done by this weekend (minus finish, hinges and door handles)

All that's left is to put some 2x4s up front in order to attach the door hinges to, but I'm still trying to decide how big the doors will be. I'll also be glueing some 1/4" or 3/8" plywood to the top of the stand to get the tank away from any screws that are attached to the top. I'll also be buying a sheet of 1/2 plywood to line the bottom of the stand with. Once the filter/pump and that stuff arrive, I might add permanant shelving to the left side.

I can sit on the stand (220 lbs) and shake around and it barely budges right now. The dead weight of a fish tank should be no problem.

More pics to come as things get done

Karl

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Old 06-10-2003, 02:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
 
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Time line so far.

Went to Home Depot and bought stuff. That's about an hour round trip.

What you see right now took about 6 hours to build.

When I got done with the framing and was sitting on the stand I realized something. MAN, THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIG TANK. I'm gettting more excited every day.

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Old 06-10-2003, 04:02 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Karl,

Great job so far. Keep us posted.

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Looks awesome so far.
How tall is the stand going to be?

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Old 06-10-2003, 06:29 AM   #7 (permalink)
 
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James,

The current dimension are as follows:
64" wide
29" deep
41" tall

Once all is said and done, I expect it to be about 41.5" high. I wanted to keep the stand in the 40"-41" range. I messed up the math somewhere.

I should have some more pics up on Thrusday, I hope. I'll either start the canopy frame or just work more on the base. Today, I'll be getting more supplies.

Jay,
Thanks

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I assume that Kherman has looked at the ramifications of his design and is happy with them, but for the sake of others who are reading I thought I'd point out a couple details.

The stand is 40+ inches tall. I'm not sure what size tank is going on the stand. Any tank over 20" high will have it's top rim 5 feet off the ground. Unless you're seven feet tall you will probably need a ladder to do maintenance on the tank.

Normal glass aquariums with frames support their weight on the frame. The frame extends some distance below the bottom glass. Normally the bottom glass is not supported from below. In fact, any upward pressure on the bottom glass must be avoided because that would tend to break the bottom seals. A solid top like Kherman is using is good for bracing the stand, but it does not and should not support the bottom of the tank. Acrylic tanks and (I assume) frameless glass tanks would be different.


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Old 06-10-2003, 07:58 AM   #9 (permalink)
 
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Roger,

Very valid points. You're corect. I decided on the 40" height due to it's location in the room. The tank is 20" tall, so the top edge of the tank is going to be about 5' high. A step stool will be required for maintenance.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Normal glass aquariums with frames support their weight on the frame. The frame extends some distance below the bottom glass. Normally the bottom glass is not supported from below. In fact, any upward pressure on the bottom glass must be avoided because that would tend to break the bottom seals. A solid top like Kherman is using is good for bracing the stand, but it does not and should not support the bottom of the tank. Acrylic tanks and (I assume) frameless glass tanks would be different.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I ordered a tank from glasscages.com. I am contacting them now to check on how to properly support their tanks. I'll be back with info.

UPDATE:
I just sent the follwoing e-mail to glasscages.com:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>
I ordered an aquarium(60x24x20 tall) and am working on the stand.

Currently, I have a piece of plywood on the top of the stand and was planning to just put the tank on top of the plywood. Are there any concerns I should have about properly supporting the aquarium? Specifically, should I support the entire floor of the aquarium or should I just support the outer edges?

Thank You,
Karl<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Looks good so far!
I like the hight, I don't like to have to bend down/over to look inside tanks!
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