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Old 12-05-2004, 04:38 PM   #11 (permalink)
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You have to find out what your local city water facility is adding to the water supply. Different cities have different set of standards. The same can be said about pH and GH. Some cities have it soft while others like my hometown, Houston, has it hard. You can literally observe calcium-related residue/deposits on the shower head and faucets. I know in Sweden(thanks to my gf), specifically Stockholm, their water supply is readily drinkable and she need not dechlorinate it whenever she does water changes. Perhaps you are one of the luck ones here in the States who lives in a city that has good clean water with little chemicals added
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Not trying to say you have no clue what your talkin about but I just re-read the manual for the unit....it specifily says to NOT use tank water....not sure about tap water verse distiled water....

I do agree with you that removing the crap the city puts in will help alot.

Even the PowerPoint file says to use Tank water..I have many things to play with now HA HA HA.

BTW, after 2 days I am now getting about a bubble ever 2 to 3 seconds...and they are moving up the ladder nicely.

Thanks for all the help guys
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The reasoning that deals with using tank water is similar in having the water treated for chlorine. As long as you can provide dechlorinated water, it matters not what source. Also for your information, I too have a Nutrafin system So don't worry; I do know what I am talking about. It all comes down to personal pref and experience through experiments. I am glad I got the DIY part of the scaping covered; it took me forever to get a hang of the proper amount of each ingredient....now I need to know how to scape for real...
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I have 4 of these units on various little tanks and I use chlorinated tap water with no problems. The bubble count is going to vary drastically from day to day with the DIY method. It usually starts out slow and once all of the yeast start producing peaks and then begins to drop back down as all of the sugar is used up.

You can play with the amount of yeast you put in the mix to increase the bubble count. More yeast= more bubbles and the need to change the mix faster. Less yeast = less bubbles and the mix lasts longer.
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I ran a DIY CO2 Gen for about a month....I had issues with it because sometimes it would last 7 to 10 day and other weeks it would only last about 3 to 5 days.....very unstable.

Honestly, I think it was a mix between my setup and playing around with different mixtures....

At least with this system its very controlled enviroment for the yeast and now with the PowerPoint thing I can hopefully make the mixture more stable itself.

SurWrathful, I wasnt trying to critize you...I have seen a few places say dont use Tank Water but never could figure out why. After looking over Tarah Nyberg's PP I still dont understand why many say dont...which accourding to her it makes more sence to use it.
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Thanks, Paul... I will have to see if I can find out what the water company is adding.



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Honestly, I wasn't offended in the slightest sense Like I said, it all comes down to personal pref and experience. Plus, each tank from each person is like a totally different universe. Things can and will vary greatly from one person to another. Personally I have never done a test on the degree of chlorine that would cause yeast to die off so I can not say just at exactly what amount will that happen. Having said that, however, I do not advocate to use tap water readily unless one is certain at the chemicals which are being added to one's local water supply. I always treat the water before I add them to my tanks. Maybe in IZM's case, it does work with presence of chlorine. Maybe it is only present in very minute amount so as to render the yeast unharmed; I do not know. It would be very interesting to hear what IZM has to say about his local water supply. I am rather curious to know the amount of Cl present in his local water supply, actually, having read what he said about the plants/fish are not harmed. Just how much; maybe IZM can share with us.
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I will look to see what my water report says. There is enough in the tap water to detect it's odor but exactly how much that amounts to will need to be researched...I'm kinda curious myself now...
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My water report says the chlorine level is 3.7 to 4.0ppm. Is that alot???
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I think there is a thread in APC that soley discusses the water supply in your city. I'm gonna go check it out. Thanks for the report
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