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Old 12-04-2004, 02:28 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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If you have one of these (Hagen/Nutrafin CO2 Natural Plant System) I would like to compair them.....

Mine seems to be doind about 1 bubble ever minute...not sure if this is normal as the manual/packaging doesnt say...

Also, this is good but annoying....my bubbles seem to get stuck on like the 4/5th leg of the ladder. They stay there until it builds up so much that it pushes on....and continues up the ladder
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If you have one of these (Hagen/Nutrafin CO2 Natural Plant System) I would like to compair them.....

Mine seems to be doind about 1 bubble ever minute...not sure if this is normal as the manual/packaging doesnt say...

Also, this is good but annoying....my bubbles seem to get stuck on like the 4/5th leg of the ladder. They stay there until it builds up so much that it pushes on....and continues up the ladder
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Cruds and what not get built up and stuck in the ladder. Sometimes snails may also take a glide there. So it is imperative you take it out and clean the whole structure. I would also stop using the replacement package since the money you spend on that can very well be spent on buying all the ingredients found in those packages which cost around $3-6. All you really need are sugar, yeast(the so called activator), baking soda(the so called stabilizer). I can speak on behalf of this and by no means am defaming this product because I also own one of these systems. It is a great little gadget if you don't mind spending that much on the replacements, much as one would on the carbo cartridge replacement....that's like a more expensive version of the same thing. To make your mix last longer, I would suggest you try the Nyberg Method, which is in my opinion the best DIY recipe. Simply add some amount of molasses, protein powder OR soy powder, in addition to those already mentioned. I also found out instead of using sugar, you can try honey.
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My experience with the ladder is when newly set up or cleaned the bubbles will build up intil a coating is formed and then the bubbles will slide right along.



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SurWrathful:

I didnt plan to buy their packets..I agree they are too expensive for just some yeast and baking soda.....

I do like some of your idea though.....Ill have to try some.

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Thanks for the info....I actually took it out and rinsed it off, as SurWrathful suggested...waitting for the pressure to build back up to see what happens.


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Still dont know what a good bubble count is...like I said, mine is doing about 1 bubble a minute...is this good or bad or average.
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A minute seemed too long an interval~ Did you use room temperature water that has been dechlorinated? Chlorine kills yeast. Always use filtered water, or you can use tank water. Also, the Nyberg Method works really well in terms of bubbling consistency. You really ought to give it a try. I get bubbles with that method at 1 every second. Good luck! If it doesn't seem to be working at first then just keep on trying. Don't give up
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The bubbles seem to have increased a bit...im getting one every 5 to 10 seconds.....

I am lost on the "Nyberg Method", I have no clue what your talkin about so I will look it up on the web.
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Actually before you reply I found what you where talkin about.....thanks

For anyone that doesnt have it, here it is...its a PowerPoint File so make sure you have PowerPoint but this is a GREAT READ!!!

Tarah Nyberg's Yeast CO2 powerpoint presentation from AGA2k3
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knighthunter, I can see somebody has done his homework Very good! Also, the method was featured in recent issues of TAG....maybe the last one or one before. Look forward to seeing your tank!
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SurWrathful:
Did you use room temperature water that has been dechlorinated? Chlorine kills yeast. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

That's interesting, because I have always used straight tap water and have great C02 output. So the yeast must still be alive in order for this to happen. Is this statement correct?...The little bit of chlorine in tap water probably gets neutralized when it kills off a small amount of yeast and the yeast that is left is free to do it's job.



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