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Old 01-09-2008, 01:07 PM   #21 (permalink)
 
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smaller as in below 20g and not breeders or longs?
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Old 01-09-2008, 01:28 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I'd still be wary of doing the full monty on a long or a bowfront.
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Old 01-09-2008, 02:27 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I'm wondering what the glass edge looks like under the frame?
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Old 01-09-2008, 03:37 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Just to note here - the ugly plastic trim that we see on most tanks made here in the US does not serve any reinforsement purpose. It does not help the structural integrity at all. It is used because of 2 reasons:

- When assembling the tank it serves as a guide where to place the glass and holds it in place.
- Helps prevent bumps of bare glass edges during transportation.

I've heard that some tanks have bad edges under the trim. Basically it's a very sharp glass edge, unpolished and dangerous, or just ugly. Is that so?
I redid (disassembled and re-siliconed) a 30 gal. tank from Perfecto last month. The edges under the rims were definitely unpolished and dangerous. In their defense, they don't expect folks to ever be exposed to those edges, and those are the edges the glass has after cutting it.

After cutting myself the first time, I took some 600 grit emory paper (fine sandpaper) to all the sharp edges and polished (?) the edges. There are two terms used in the glass cutting biz for finishing the edges. One term just means taking the sharp edge off and the other term is for doing some more extensive shaping and smoothing. Anyone remember them?

Anyway, it cost me about 10 or 15 minutes but made the job much more pleasant and less dangerous.

I had to reseal the tank because the bottom mostly fell out of it. It started it drip leaking in one corner a few weeks earlier and while trying to make time to deal with it, I did a water change. Apparently filling the tank all the way up was a mistake because I came back to 15 out of 30 gallons on the (tile) floor.

Before anyone bashes Perfecto, this tank was purchased back in 1983 and spend about ten of the years since in a hot Texas attic.

Oh, on the topic at hand, I use a small (~1" wide) putty knife and carefully work it between the glass and the rim on both the inside and outside of the tank. This only adhesive where the glass edge actually meets the rim and that's usually pretty week. This a wiggle and pry and work around the tank until the rim comes off and hope that I don't break it too many times in the process. Anyone know a good place to buy replacement tank rims? They may be ugly, but they're handy for holding glass tops up on smaller tanks. I've done three 20s and the one 30 in the last couple of years with the putty knife method. More attic victims.

I think another method would be to separate the front and back panes from the rest of the tank with a razor blade and then (after using the putty knife method) see if you can slide the pane out of the rim at the top or bottom. But I haven't tried that idea.
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Sounds like a very neat and cheap way to have a rimless tank. Has anyone tried this on an All-Glass Aquarium tank and are the edges of the glass under the top rim jagged?
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Old 01-09-2008, 04:55 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I'm wondering what the glass edge looks like under the frame?
Have you followed the link I posted? You can zoom in on the pictures to get a good idea of what they look like.
For the most part, the edges are not jagged and you are not in any danger of getting cut. The edge quality is not ADA by any means, but I have seen 5 or so tanks with the rim removed and wouldn't do anything to change the glass edges - they look perfectly fine once all the silicone is removed.


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Sounds like a very neat and cheap way to have a rimless tank. Has anyone tried this on an All-Glass Aquarium tank and are the edges of the glass under the top rim jagged?
All the tanks I've done are All-Glass brand, and the edges are nice enough to leave un-modified
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Old 01-15-2008, 07:31 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I just pulled the rim of an AGA 40 gallon breeder I got last year during Petco's dollar per gallon sale. I used the putty knife method like Trag. It was a lot easier than I thought, just required a little muscle. Came of in one piece. I could actually put it back on if I wanted.

Very cool. It makes the tank look so much bigger.

The edges are a little sharp but clean. Maybe a little sanding, maybe not.

Sweet.
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Old 01-18-2008, 06:15 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I love this DIY sprit of USA man! Just why there are people want to try on 5g to 10 g tanks while ADA have those nano at an ok price? And I though some one had imported these ADA look alike tank with a friendlier price already... anyone?
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Old 01-18-2008, 08:20 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I just want to be rid of my center brace so I get better light coverage across the tank..
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Old 01-18-2008, 10:02 AM   #30 (permalink)
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whats the longest one has had one of these DIY rimless tanks? I just wanna see how long they last because I still feel unsure if they are safe.
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