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Old 02-25-2019, 08:18 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Hello Diana thanks for your advice.

About the smell, my tank always had the same smell, like a river coast, but not a contaminated one =) (like a wet dirt)

Please tell me what you think about what i'll do at nigth:

1) Removing with a teeth brush the algae easy to remove.
2) I also can apply hydrogen peroxide on the spots. (if you agree)
3) Gently poking the sand and dirt.
3) Do big water change (50% at least).
4) I can put a filter without filtering material (for keeping the water moving)
5) I have also potassium nitrate for adding to thank (also if you agree)

-- I have a 6-4-6 photoperiod with siesta, do you recommend me to alter this photoperiod or its ok ?

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Old 02-25-2019, 10:50 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Don't try to change too many things at once. You could just create more problems. I gave you 4 suggestions in this morning's letter from this morning. That's enough and they should help. Please reread letter.

I would argue strongly against H2O2. (The H2O2 could injure delicate plant tissue, and you're never going to eradicate the algae with H2O2.) Adding KNO3 is like throwing gasoline on a fire. (Your tank already has plenty of nutrients.) I wouldn't change the filtration setup. (The filter isn't the problem.)
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Don't try to change too many things at once. You could just create more problems. I gave you 4 suggestions in this morning's letter from this morning. That's enough and they should help. Please reread letter.



I would argue strongly against H2O2. (The H2O2 could injure delicate plant tissue, and you're never going to eradicate the algae with H2O2.) Adding KNO3 is like throwing gasoline on a fire. (Your tank already has plenty of nutrients.) I wouldn't change the filtration setup. (The filter isn't the problem.)
Ok, thank you Diana, in a couple of hours when I'm at home I will do your suggestions.

I'll keep posting how things are going.

Yours, Leonardo.

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Hello good morning to all. Yesterday at night i make all your advices. Forget to take a photo to share.

But today at night i will post a picture of my tank. In fact today when i woke up, it looked healthier than yesterday's nigth.

Thank for your kind advice Diana =)

Yours, Leonardo
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Ok this is the tank, yesterday at night.

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Old 03-03-2019, 05:24 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Ok this is the tank, yesterday at night.

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Hello all, results after almost a week.

Sagittaria a part of it is dying. Red lottus is still doing fine. The rest of plants going strength.
Algae seems to be stopped growing. I had one guppie casualty (I think is natural desease, I have it for almost year and a half). Ottos are doing fine, and the ram seem to be ok.

I'm wondering if need to poke and do a big water change again.

Thanks for reading and for guide me.

Yours, Leonardo
Here the pics.


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Old 03-06-2019, 06:06 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Your tank is still young, so a water change won't hurt and you can clean up the dead plant matter and stray algae at same time.

I didn't think you could kill Sag, so I don't know why it died like that. Unusual event. You might want to think about WHY that happened.

If you GENTLY poke substrate and no gas comes out, then you can do it less frequently and/or stop.

I think your rescue efforts are paying off. Nice tank!
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Sag is strange plant. When I replanted maybe 50 plants from the small tank where it overtook every available space to the big tank, only 5 pieces survived. Even those grew maybe two leaves in a couple of months. Crypts are growing like crazy there. I tried to plant Sag into every possible place (dark corner, shade, direct strong light,..), no difference. Poking into the substrate doesn't bring any bubbles or foul smell. The same happened to Vals, they just disappeared. I can't explain it.
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Hello Diana it feels very good reading your words =)

I did a water change and did cleaning of dead sagistaria also. For my surprise, in the very bottom of it, there were green. and after a day. I started to see some sprout of sag. I thought, sags are weak so, maybe its not a good idea to poke the substrate.
Another good surprise, red lotus, pulled out a steam and a leaf at almost water level (40 cm) in two days !!!
Today when I get home at night I'll take a picture so you can follow how tank is going.
I really appreciatte your guidance Diana.

Thanks so much.
Yours, Leonardo
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Well well, its benn 10 days from my last post. After doing two more cleaning, plus 25/30 percent water change and some poking around here and there. Things are doing more than i expected (really).
As pointed @mysiak Sag its a trange plant (in fact the mine went almost down).
Red Lotus, has no signs of suffered BGA, i had some leaves down and i have to remove some of the hygrophila poliesperm because of BGA and i was almost impossible to clean it well.
Plants are growing in a good ratio and fishes has no signs of being affected of anything.
Here are the pics and in a second post, the remain pics.

Yours, Leonardo !
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