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Old 12-22-2019, 07:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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When I knicked it with a stainless steel planting tool. I knew it happened as I felt it but the injury did not show up for a week. Now she is swollen and I can see the sore on her side.

I have a heavily planted 50 gal soil tank capped with just 6 Rosy Barbs and 2 Cory cats (yes I need more) my water is soft (well water) but I used Dolomites (?) in the soil to balance this. I have 1 large sponge filter with power head and a hang on the back with foam media that I clean every 2 weeks rotating the cleaning between the 2 filters.

How can I help this Rosy survive my stupidity in not watching where the plant tool was.....
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I did a large water change today and maintenance on the filters so hoping that helps.
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Take the injured fish out and treat with antibiotics.
You can also find a fish bandage like
http://www.hikariusa.com/wp/solution...d/bio-bandage/
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I learn something new every day! Fish bandage? Do some people operate on fish? Stitch their wounds? If I tried doctoring a fish I would almost certainly do more harm than good, violating the oath all doctors have to take. Do no harm.
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I learn something new every day! Fish bandage? Do some people operate on fish? Stitch their wounds? If I tried doctoring a fish I would almost certainly do more harm than good, violating the oath all doctors have to take. Do no harm.
Here's a fish vet working on a skin ulcer. He used a spray of antibiotics and then a 'fish bandage' over it.
https://youtu.be/GCyNcsGlxjk?t=468

It's a gelling cellulose powder. Not exactly sure which but I'm thinking it might be Methylcellulose.
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I was just reading about montmorillonite clay usage in tropical tanks and outdoor ponds. It is being said to be extremely beneficial and reason why Japan Koi breeders have such success (their natural ponds have clay mud bottoms). Among many other properties it should help in healing process of fish (and shrimp or snails).

It is being sold under many different names (and prices), but if you can get a Koi clay powder, IMHO it's worth a shot and not that expensive (and small bag will last you ages). Products for tropical fish or shrimp are sold in much smaller quantities and cost much more, yet the substance is the very same..
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Here's a fish vet working on a skin ulcer. He used a spray of antibiotics and then a 'fish bandage' over it.
https://youtu.be/GCyNcsGlxjk?t=468

It's a gelling cellulose powder. Not exactly sure which but I'm thinking it might be Methylcellulose.
That's very interesting. My fish have always been a bit smaller, though.
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I did a large water change today and maintenance on the filters so hoping that helps.
Changing water and the filter probably won't make any difference. The bacteria are already honed in.

Ideally, if a healthy fish is nicked, a small wound would heal without developing a sore. A sore means that bacteria have gotten a foothold.

I think that you would need to add antibiotics to the tank OR treat the fish with salt, which is highly effective against external bacterial infections. Noga's book on fish diseases recommends a 30 min bath in water with 10-30 grams salt per liter. Monitor fish behavior during treatment and remove fish if it gets too stressed. Then, repeat the salt treatment the next day.
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Thank you All, turned out it’s a small nicked and no sign of infection now as I first thought and is active and eating and not isolating itself post water change. ��
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That's good news!

I've scraped my guppies accidentally while feeding with a knife. None have come down with anything.
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