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Old 08-01-2020, 05:58 PM   #61 (permalink)
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There is no reason to run the water through an RO/DI system correct? I have been using API stress coat + for years with no issues. Claims to remove chlorines and chloramines as well as detoxify heavy metals. I don't care about the heavy metal bit.

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Yes, using a dechlorinator is fine, preferred for hobbyists. We’re listing alternatives.
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Please! I was not talking about pH. My recipe for oxygenating the water (wire-whisk water vigorously to add copious air oxygen) after adding a water conditioner has nothing to do with pH. I was merely providing a simple means to add oxygen to the water after neutralizing chloramine. Oxygenating the water may keep fish from dying from oxygen depletion.

Mysiak adds H2O2 to oxygenate water after adding chloramine. I would just try adding air oxygen manually. The main thing is being aware of the problem and watching your fish carefully after a water change. If they're gasping at the surface, now you'll have some idea of what to do.

This is not rocket science.
Sorry for any confusion in how I communicated. I was referring to your separate thread where you have a recipe on how to increase PH for people with soft water. Most spring water that I could buy where chlorine and chloramines would not be an issue have a low PH, they're soft water. I was saying that if my city ever ends up adding chloramine, that I'd be most comfortable just buying, for instance, Crystal Geyser spring water. But, I'd want to increase the PH, which I could do with your recipe for increasing PH. I wasn't referring to your post about oxygen or what Mysiak said. I was talking about something else entirely - another option regarding just buying spring water and then increasing the PH of the spring water with your safe recipe for that.

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Still some confusion. My recipe is not for increasing pH. Indeed, one would prefer a lower pH for plants, as it makes CO2 more available to plants.

My recipe (my book, p. 87) is for providing hardwater nutrients (Ca, K, Mg, etc) to plants. I purposely use CaCl2, because it does not raise the pH. If you use CaCO3 (as in dolomite lime, oyster shells, sea shells, etc), you will increase the pH, which is something that I would try to avoid.
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Still some confusion. My recipe is not for increasing pH. Indeed, one would prefer a lower pH for plants, as it makes CO2 more available to plants.

My recipe (my book, p. 87) is for providing hardwater nutrients (Ca, K, Mg, etc) to plants. I purposely use CaCl2, because it does not raise the pH. If you use CaCO3 (as in dolomite lime, oyster shells, sea shells, etc), you will increase the pH, which is something that I would try to avoid.
Won't baking soda, as part of increasing carbonate hardness, increase pH? Is there any way to avoid that, if you want to keep the water soft? I thought kH and pH are pretty inexorably linked, though I must admit to not being too familiar with the chemistry behind it
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