Splitting 46g bf Center Brace - What would you do? - Equipment - Aquatic Plant Central

Go Back   Aquatic Plant Central > General Interest Forums > Equipment

Equipment Aquarium Equipment - Discuss equipment to help setup your planted aquarium.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-04-2006, 11:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
BSS
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 85
iTrader Ratings: 0
BSS is a regular member
Default Splitting 46g bf Center Brace - What would you do?

Hey all! Check out the photo and let me know how you'd proceed. Your rationale would be valued as well.

As to the bent paperclip, that helps hold my background in place.

All comments appreicated!
Brian.

P.S. Also posted to TPT.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Splitting center brace.small.jpg
Views:	801
Size:	63.1 KB
ID:	3431  
BSS is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisement [Remove Advertisement]
Old 09-04-2006, 12:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
Member
 
Petfairy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Posts: 77
iTrader Ratings: 0
Petfairy is a regular member
Default

I dont know how to fix it, but i would at least drop the water level so there isnt so much pressure on the top. That would freak me out, I would look into ways to fix it, or possibly a new tank. but, thats just me, i dont know what the others would do.

Good luck.
Petfairy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2006, 01:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
diablocanine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 173
iTrader Ratings: 9
iTrader Positive Rating: 100%
diablocanine is a regular member
Default

Somebody pick the tank up by the center brace? It needs to be fixed. I had to replace a top frame due to cracking, I tried to repair it with adhesive but it did not hold for long. The integrity of the frame has been compromised, for peace of mind, replace the top frame. Better than waking up to 40+ gallons of tank water on the floor and dead fish. Some will tell you to fix it and it will hold, save yourself some grief and ask the manufacturer what they think......DC
diablocanine is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Old 09-04-2006, 01:55 PM   #4 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
dennis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Leverett, Mass
Posts: 2,988
iTrader Ratings: 47
iTrader Positive Rating: 100%
dennis is a regular member
Default

I to woudl replace the frame or the tank. You could look at it as a re-scape opportunity. Good luck!
dennis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2006, 02:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
Member
 
Petfairy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Kansas City, Missouri
Posts: 77
iTrader Ratings: 0
Petfairy is a regular member
Default

haha, what better excuse to re-scape. I had to ... it was broken.
lol.. that was a good one.

But, seriously. what size tank was that? you would want to compare the cost to fix it, and if its more than just replacing the tank.. you might want to just get a new one, especially if its going to need to be replaced every few years.
Petfairy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2006, 02:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
BSS
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 85
iTrader Ratings: 0
BSS is a regular member
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by diablocanine
...It needs to be fixed. I had to replace a top frame due to cracking, I tried to repair it with adhesive but it did not hold for long. The integrity of the frame has been compromised, for peace of mind, replace the top frame. Better than waking up to 40+ gallons of tank water on the floor and dead fish. Some will tell you to fix it and it will hold, save yourself some grief and ask the manufacturer what they think......DC
DC - pretty much what I was thinking. Trying to cobble together something with the integrity of the top rim is easier said than done, IMO.

How big of a pain was it to replace your frame? Is it just pushed into place (wishful thinking) or did you have to battle with silicone/caulking.
[ To answer one of my questions...per All-Glass Aquarium - Quality Fish Tanks, Hoods, Lights, Stands and Accessories : "Sealed Top Frame: Every All-Glass aquarium frame is thoroughly silicone bonded to the glass, which eliminates any water seepage. The protected seal is durable and cannot be damaged by ordinary cleaning."]

Being a 46 gallon bow-front, I think that tank itself cost around $150, so I don't relish replacing it...but I might.

As to the rescape, I just resolved a CO2 issue and was just hoping to see the new scape round into shape . But, it would give me the chance to move the C. balansae over to the side of the tank with all the plumbing to help cover that up.

Thanks for the inputs, folks!
Brian.

Last edited by BSS; 09-04-2006 at 03:09 PM..
BSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2006, 05:03 PM   #7 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
werner's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Calgary, AB, Canada
Posts: 225
iTrader Ratings: 0
werner is a regular member
Default

"Honey, I need a new tank! This one's going to break and all the people on APC tell me it can't be fixed! I was thinking I should get a [bigger size] gallon... I know it's expensive, but just think what it would cost to replace the [carpet, hardwood, subfloor] if it breaks. I'm actually saving us money! I could set this one up as a paludarium for [kid's name]- it would be so much more educational than [watching tv, playing video games]!"
werner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2006, 08:53 AM   #8 (permalink)
Senior Member
 
bpimm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Washougal, Washington
Posts: 612
iTrader Ratings: 38
iTrader Positive Rating: 100%
bpimm is a regular member
Default

The frame is probably siliconed on good, but it doesn't matter that much. it's already broke.... slide a razor knife up under the frame on the inside then break the plastic off then finish cutting it off. I've done it several times. Get one of the segmental razor knifes, the ones that you just break off the tip when it gets dull, they're capable of being extended far enough to cut all the way up to the top of the plastic.

Replace the frame with a new one and just add a silicone fillet to the inside lip that will seal it and make it easer next time. if there is a next time.

Your only option for fixing it without the new frame IMHO, is to add a glass brace in place of the plastic one, you would cut out the plastic brace and notch the frame on the inside to accommodate the glass brace, clean the glass good and silicone in place and lightly clamp for 24 Hours. A glass shop can cut the brace for you if you make a template. I would think a 2.5" peise of 1/4" glass should be plenty if you decide to go this route.

Now food for thought. Honey we need to replace this tank.... all the reasons listed above... after you are done with that you could learn how to fix the old tank and hey you have this perfectly good tank just sitting there, you might as well fill it up...
bpimm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2006, 11:49 AM   #9 (permalink)
BSS
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 85
iTrader Ratings: 0
BSS is a regular member
Default

Good suggestions, folks....though I'm guessing the ex won't take kindly to a reduced alimony check...even if *I* think it is justified .

Actually sent an e-mail to [email protected] last night and got a nice response already. They said I could order a replacement rim from them. So, we'll see how much it runs. From what I've heard here and at TPT, I'm guessing it should be around $20 bucks.

Thanks, all!
Brian.
BSS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-05-2006, 01:08 PM   #10 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 178
iTrader Ratings: 0
AndyT. is a regular member
Default

another alternative (somewhat more difficult because it is a bowfront) is to do the following (Note: YMMV, do this at your own risk, I make no garantee or warantee of this method and am not liable if you decide to do it):
  • Lower the tank water by 50%
  • Use two clamps (a variety of different clamps will do the job) to clamp the aquarium so that the cracks come together. Remember to use some kind of rubber/plastic to keep the metal parts of the clamps from touching the aquarium glass.
  • Cut a piece of wood to fit exactly across the center interior of the aquarium. Make sure to very carefully mirror the curve of the bowfront.
  • Bring that piece of wood to a local glass store, they can use it as a template. Have the new center brace made of tempered glass at least 1/4" thick and make them bevel the edges of the sides.
  • Put new center brace in aquarium and clamp it to the existing center brace.
  • Silicone the heck out of it and let it dry a full twenty four hours.
  • Unclamp from current center brace.
  • Release clamps from front to back. Watch carefully to see that the silicone is holding.
  • Slowly refill tank.
  • Once aquarium is full watch silicone suspiciously for several minutes. If silicone shows no sign of giving, let out a deep sigh.
  • If silicone starts to give, replace clamps from front to back.

Yeah, I've done this a couple of times before... Oceanic 150's where the glass center brace gave on the front end and fell against the back wall of the aquarium. Glass can bow impressively before it breaks. Last time this happened I noticed we were all speaking in whispers as we applied the front to back clamps - scared it would give way.

Personally, I recommend getting a new aquarium.
AndyT. is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Aquatic Plant Central > General Interest Forums > Equipment > Splitting 46g bf Center Brace - What would you do?

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 01:35 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.1