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Old 11-17-2004, 11:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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i've decided to replace a hob filter in my planted tank in hopes of improving water quality. i don't think the hob filter is doing a great job. i will be going with a canister filter in hopes of adding a diy co2 diffuser/reactor (i found some great designs) in either the intake or outflow tubes. i'm on a limited budget, so i've been looking at the fluval x04 series of filters and the xp filstar series. personally, i'd love to get one of the eheim pro series filters, but it's way too rich for my blood. i'd like to know your tho'ts of the efficiency of these filters.

your input is highly valued. TIA.

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Old 11-17-2004, 11:48 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Filstar XP series are the best filters IMO. But i would not put one in a living room. They make a humming noise. Eheims are weak filters as far as flow rate but they are quite. That is really what makes them good. Fluvals are just a pain IMO.
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Fluval is the best compromise between price and quality. I have 3 of them and only one makes a noise that is due to the CO2 build up (but the filter keeps running).

Cleaning the Fluvals is very easy and with virtually no spilled water. Also - I don't know if the Filstar has a flow regulator lever, the new Fluvals have it.

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Fluvals are a great filter that gets the job done for a good price. I have two and plan on getting another. The only drawback is they are hard to prime at times. I think Big Als have them on sale now.



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does it matter which fluval i get? i have a 30G that i have set up, and a 60G that isn't (will reserve this for when i have more space). i believe the 204 flowrate is good enuff for the 30G. but i'm thinking of actually getting the 304 for use with the 60G when it's set up in the future. is there any harm in using the 304 on a 30G? i can adjust the flowrates if needed right?

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Should do fine, just keep the water flow turned down.



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I use a 204 on a 20 long. Flow is a little strong so I replaced the retarded output nozzle with a T shaped deal. Sends the flow both directions and makes a little less harsh. I would think it would be great on a 30g.

One thing, don't buy into the BS that one brand is superior that some like to spew. I don't buy it at all. My tank is crysal clear with a Fluval and quiet. Pay a decent price for one of the large brands like a Fluval, Eheim or a Filstar and you will be fine.
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Richy,

Since you are on a tight budget, I would suggest you keep the HOB filter and invest in an Eheim 2213. You can get one for $50-$60 on eBay. If the tank is located in an area where noise is not of a concern, then invest in a Rena Filstar XP1/XP2 while still keeping the HOB filter. The Fluvals cost about as much as the Eheim 2213 and Rena Filstar, but seem to have a disproportionately larger number of complaints than the other two filters. Whether or not that is representative, I cannot say; but if it were me, then I would err on the side of caution and get a Filstar or Eheim.

It is in my humblest of opinion that for a large tank, two small filters are better than a single large one. If you ever set up that 60G tank, don't pool your money into one big filter. Get several smaller ones instead. Such a configuration provides for greater flexibility as well as efficient and thorough circulation.

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Lastly, a canister filter is an expensive investment so give yourself at least 2-3 weeks to research, read more reviews, and shop around for the best prices. A little patience will save you A LOT of headaches later.

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Hey, Richy I saw you post about Hydor In line heaters too. If you really want to use this kind of heater, I don't suggest you to use Fluval because Fluval have a special water hose that (not kink.) It will make you sick, when you want to connect with a special equipment (such as in-line heater, Co2 reractor)
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You can replace the Fluval hose with same size vinyl hose. I have both Fluval (304) and Eheims (2224). The Fluval has served its purprose. But the Eheim is dependable, silent, has a metal impeller, and does not lock up if you bubble CO2 into it. The simple Eheim's are dependable and last a long time.

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