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I finally found the ADA 10 gallon (9.. The problem is that they are 85.00 plus shipping. Then the lighting for both of those tanks will total about $100. So....me being me, I decided to see about Glasscages.com's prices for a rimless 10 gallon in either acrylic or glass (whichever was cheaper), and I get the response back that they are $50 each. BUT they do not make 10g acrylic tanks as they warp, and they do not ship because of glass breakage. So my option from them is to order, then wait until august and go pick them up. (1 1/2 hour drive) Is this normal? I mean if ADA can ship....
Basically I am wondering if anyone has any experience with a tank maker that will ship to me that is reliable. I just cant believe my luck on these things.......

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The only simularity between ADA and Glasscages tanks is that both are made to house water and fish. That is like comparing a Yugo to a Mercedes! Both do the intended job, but one is just obviously better.

If you have a local fish store you would probably do best by ordering it thru the store, where it would be just one of a shipment of tanks and you wouldn't have to drive long distances or pay super high shipping cost for it. But, there really is a reason why different tanks cost different amounts of money.

If you want to save money, Craigslist is a good place to look. If you are in a major urban area you can almost always find good deals there, and within driving distance, often with a matching stand included.
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Obviously I can go and get a couple of 10 gallons from Petco or something and pay $20-$25 dollars for them. What I am looking for is rimless. I thought I could save a little money by going rimless @ glasscages.com, but I guess it's like my father always told me....Life is about time or money. You either have one or the other. (Money to buy ADA or the time to drive 1 1/2 hours to get one.)
BTW, what makes ADA a superior tank?

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Obviously I can go and get a couple of 10 gallons from Petco or something and pay $20-$25 dollars for them. What I am looking for is rimless. I thought I could save a little money by going rimless @ glasscages.com, but I guess it's like my father always told me....Life is about time or money. You either have one or the other. (Money to buy ADA or the time to drive 1 1/2 hours to get one.)
BTW, what makes ADA a superior tank?

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I don't have an ADA tank, so my impressions are based on photos and comments from others. ADA tanks are made with very careful craftsmanship, nearly invisible seams, well polished edges, and high quality glass. In fact ADA as a brand name always means the top quality in workmanship and design. What I have seen, from the photos on glasscages webpage is somewhat sloppy corner seams, with relatively wide bands of silicone overlapping the glass. Others have commented that their tanks show the signs of fast work without a lot of attention to detail. Again, I don't have one of their tanks, and haven't seen a photo of a rimless glasscages tank, so I don't have personal knowledge of this. But, I don't think you will find a single person who will say the two brands even come close to being the same quality. And, that explains the price difference (in my opinion.) Those of us who, like me, can't begin to afford an ADA tank will probably be happy with a glasscages tank, just as I am happy with my PT Cruiser automobile.
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I don't really trust glass cages too much. A while back reef central had a thread about them and all but one of the people who replied said their tanks were really low quality, a few had leaks, I think one had a full out BUST from something that wasn't sealed right/cut right, something like that. . .
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I don't have an ADA tank, so my impressions are based on photos and comments from others. ADA tanks are made with very careful craftsmanship, nearly invisible seams, well polished edges, and high quality glass. In fact ADA as a brand name always means the top quality in workmanship and design. What I have seen, from the photos on glasscages webpage is somewhat sloppy corner seams, with relatively wide bands of silicone overlapping the glass. Others have commented that their tanks show the signs of fast work without a lot of attention to detail. Again, I don't have one of their tanks, and haven't seen a photo of a rimless glasscages tank, so I don't have personal knowledge of this. But, I don't think you will find a single person who will say the two brands even come close to being the same quality. And, that explains the price difference (in my opinion.) Those of us who, like me, can't begin to afford an ADA tank will probably be happy with a glasscages tank, just as I am happy with my PT Cruiser automobile.
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To be completely honest, I really cant set aside the money to purchase ADA right now either. I have a family and responsibilites just like anyone else. The problem that I am having is that where I live we have VERY few choices on anything aquarium. The two biggest choices being Petco and Petsmart. The the couple of stores around that even come close to what I am looking for for anything from fish to aquariums and everything else in between hike their prices and cant keep anything alive long enough to sell it. So I have come to the conclusion that short of opening my own aquarium shop, I will have to order online. I am thankful for your input on glasscages, as I am not too familiar with them, but from what I can tell they seem to be the biggest tank making company around. I am having a hard time finding anything else. Rimless tanks seem to be all the rage, but finding one that wont cost an arm and a leg is even harder.
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If you are extremely courageous, and have a very understanding family, and a place to work, you can make your own tank. Look thru the DIY forum for how to do this. I wouldn't try this for anything, but people do it, and do it very well. It isn't a big cost savings, except over the ADA tanks, but it lets you get the size tank you want, and rimless too.
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If you are extremely courageous, and have a very understanding family, and a place to work, you can make your own tank. Look thru the DIY forum for how to do this. I wouldn't try this for anything, but people do it, and do it very well. It isn't a big cost savings, except over the ADA tanks, but it lets you get the size tank you want, and rimless too.
Hmmm...its a thought. I would worry about leakage though more than anything. I think what I might end up doing is saving for awhile and getting ADA though. It seems to me that I would have to have glass cut for a DIY tank project and that could get expensive as well. I wish I could just settle for larger tanks and have a big community of fish instead of loving smaller, heavily planted species setups.....

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I see lots of tanks everyday and there is a very noticeable difference. The ADA is the Lambo of tanks! the quality and clarity is top notch. The silicone in the corners is unnoticeable. cheaper tanks can be very sloppy, I have seen fingerprints and even fisheyes (chips). ADA tanks are packed well and ship fine. My opinion, you get what you pay for.
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It's just a friggin tank. You want rimless? Pull the trim off.

Glasscages.com can make a tank with Strafire (low iron/perfectly clear) front panel.

If there's a problem with the tank, that's why there's a warrenty.

All my tanks are cheap crap I've had for decades and found cheap. Somehow they manage to hold water and I can't say I've spent a whole lot of time staring at the craftmanship of the corners or what have you and posit that if you're doing that you need something more interesting inside the tank.

"The ADA is the Lambo of tanks!"

If you'd ever owned a Lambo you'd know this wasn't a compliment.
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