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Old 09-07-2017, 01:29 AM   #211 (permalink)
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It is for me. I have a lot of tanks and little to no energy.
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Old 09-20-2017, 12:56 AM   #212 (permalink)
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Hi everyone, question for ye.

I have a 100 gallon tank and intend on using a water drip feed method which will be running continuously. By using this method I hope to not have to do a big WC every week.
Is it possible to still do the EI Dosing method and if so how would I go about it.

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Old 09-20-2017, 04:27 AM   #213 (permalink)
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Hey Henry,
I would think it'd still be possible but not as effective as I would dose personally in smaller amounts. You don't want To much nutrients but you want enough that the plants can absorb whatever, whenever.
But I do recommend a water change weekly IMO. Just part of routine maintenance.
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Maybe dose daily and take some test at different times or intervals during the photoperiod. Then its a matter of adjustment as you desire.

As DutchMuch indicates - do a weekly WC anyway
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It depends on how much of a drip you have going. If it is one gallon per day that is considerably different from 10 gallons per day, etc. The greater the rate you change the water the more likely you can dose according to the tables. At a gallon per day you would need to adjust the dosing to avoid big overdoses.
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I have never worked too hard to get to that level as I see some problems.
A set it and forget it type sounds good but then my fish and plants have never wanted it to work?
Given time one might find just the right amount of water to remove and dosing to add, but then it is always changing even when we don't see the change. Fish and plants grow or die. Taller get taller and shade low ones. We feed the fish more or less. Even the water changes from the hot and dry season to winter in some places.
So how it would work long term is not one I've found.
My final issue is that I do need to look at my tanks and during water changes, I'm sure to spot things going wrong before they become monsters.
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I have never worked too hard to get to that level as I see some problems.
A set it and forget it type sounds good but then my fish and plants have never wanted it to work?
Given time one might find just the right amount of water to remove and dosing to add, but then it is always changing even when we don't see the change. Fish and plants grow or die. Taller get taller and shade low ones. We feed the fish more or less. Even the water changes from the hot and dry season to winter in some places.
So how it would work long term is not one I've found.
My final issue is that I do need to look at my tanks and during water changes, I'm sure to spot things going wrong before they become monsters.
Gone missing,
your post is missing key points.
Plants do not shade out others with: proper planting, and correct spacing. it all relies on the scape, plus half the time if you have high lighting this doesn't matter much anyway...
If you put in the time and effort, you can feed your inhabitants Exactly the right amount, many people do this but its more on the nerdy side. You take the fish(s) weight and do some math with it and the food (blah blah not getting into it) etc etc etc... I personally underfeed a bit and don't see bad results, my feeding schedule is every other day, and I give just enough.
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No doubt there are key points missing. No perfect way for sure. But that is what I was trying to get at. Our tanks do change, so I have never felt that I had enough of a perfect dose to assume that it will be correct at some point in the future. So that has left me not spending much time to perfect a really good dosing system as I would assume it will change. I have shied away from setting a mechanical dosing system or even using a pre-mixed as I keep finding things that prompt me to vary my dosing.
Quite possible the combination of what I do is part of the problem as my tanks are rarely the same for very long.
Maybe just a difference in how we each view the hobby. Some want a picture perfect tank to set back and view. I much prefer doing things with the tanks. I've never had a picture perfect tank but I might want to tear it down and start a new project, even if I had one?
I once moved to a perfect spot-- but then there were too many people there and I moved!
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The process of which this is done is simple.
Stick to a good dosing regime and your plants will flourish!
I have no idea if I am doing this right! this is not simple for me. Can someone just check to see if this is correct? I can only dose 5 days a week because tank is a the school I work at.
20 gal tank.
dose 10ml (from 500 ml bottle = 50 doses in a bottle).
3 days of Macro, 2 days of micro, 50% water change a week.

KNO3: 926mg per dose = 46.3g in the bottle
KH2PO4: 180mg per dose = 7.05g in the bottle
K2S04: 1.27g per dose = 63.5g in the bottle
Plantex+B: 232mg per dose = 11.60g in the bottle

And if I wanted to add Calcium Sulfate to the mix for my Mexican Dwarf Crawfish.
and the target is 15ppm CASO4,2H20: 4.88 per dose = 244g in the bottle.

Thank you so much for any help!
John
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Hi there,
I was hoping you could offer some advice for the following tank setup:
Tank: Juwal Rio 240 litre
Lighting: Fluval fresh& plant 2.0 (4.30pm to 5pm ramp up to 80% - 10pm to 10.30pm ramp down)
Co2: Pressurized 3bps (4pm to 9.30pm) mixed with internal co2 reactor.
Tank type: heavily planted jungle tank (Sords,crypts, red lotus, xmas moss etc)
Filter: All ponds solutions efx+ 2000 l/ph
Dosing :uk plant food uk ei dosing

The problem:

I am following your recipe and dosing schedule to the extent of dosing for a 200 litre tank not for the full 240 litre which my tank is. All algae seems to have disappeared, but green spot algae has taken hold on my crypts, swords, aubias and some of the other species and also my red plants dont seem to be as vibrant with stunted and small leaf growth. But only specs on the glass hardly worth worrying about.

I did do i phosphate test, it indecated 40ppm which i dont think is right so i take those results with a pinch of salt.

Any advice hear?

Do I need to dose for the full 240 litres because I am under dosing? Is this a deficiency overall throughtout my tank?
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