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Old 05-15-2019, 05:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Tank

What is the water volume of the tank?
5 gallons

How long has the tank been running?
Since Feb 1, 2019

Does it have a filter?
Yes

Does it have a heater?
No, but temperature is always between 25C and 30C

What is the water temperature?
Currently 26C

What is the entire stocking of this tank? (Please list all fish and inverts.)
One Nerite and a Dwarf Puffer, with a ton of small Ramshorn and Pond Snail babies that are too small to even tell which snail they are.

Maintenance
How often do you change the water?
Once a week, though I changed it today as I only got my DP three days ago.

How much of the water do you change?
Today I changed half a gallon

What do you use to treat your water?
Dechlorinator (idk it is a chinese brand)

Do you vacuum the substrate or just the water?
Neither

*Parameters - Very Important
Did you cycle your tank before adding fish?
Yes

What do you use to test the water?
API freshwater test kit

What are your parameters? We need to know the exact numbers, not just “fine” or “safe”.

Ammonia: 0
Nitrite: 0
Nitrate: 0
pH: 7.6

Feeding
How often do you feed your fish? I fed it yesterday and the day before but not today nor the first day I got it since I was eating things around the tank

How much do you feed your fish?
I think I overfed it yesterday as I gave it a couple of frozen blood worms and it had already taken chunks out of snails while I was at work.

What brand of food do you feed your fish?
N/A it is frozen

Do you feed frozen or freeze-dried foods?
Yes


Illness & Symptoms
How long have you had this fish?
Three days

How long ago did you first notice these symptoms?
Just now

In a few words, can you explain the symptoms?
Tiny white growth on its right fin... at first I thought it was maybe a worm or something as it looks almost like one of the small flatworms I see in the tank, but it wasn't moving.

Have you started any treatment for the illness?
No

Was your fish physically ill or injured upon purchase?
No

How has its behavior and appearance changed, if at all?
No

Explain your emergency situation in detail. (Please give a clear explanation of what is going on, include details from the beginning of the illness leading up to now)

I just noticed a small, white bump on its right fin. I tried taking a few pictures but the fish itself is so small that I don't know if you can even notice it, but I will try posting the pictures later if they are needed.

Basically the fish is acting perfectly healthy, and I observed its poop which was solid and brown/black so I thought I wouldn't have to worry about any internal parasites at least. My sister actually pointed out to me there was something on its fin or I wouldn't have noticed. There is a tiny white growth/bump on its fin and I am quite worried as if it is some sort of disease I would like to treat it asap. I googled it and the first result that came up was some viral disease and that really freaked me out. It has only been three days since I got the little thing so I understand it might be stressed out. Is there anything I can do to help?

I did notice every now and then it darts really fast across the tank, though it doesn't do this often. The current is a bit strong in the tank but I have ordered a different type of lily pipe and it should be here in a few weeks. I am scared to just leave the filter off as it might just cause something else to develop in the tank.

I attached a picture of the puffer with the white growth on its fin. I noticed there is also a small bump/dot on its belly. It literally just looks like a dot hanging off its belly and I don't know if its related or not. Please help, this puffer has only spent 3 days in my tank.
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Old 05-15-2019, 08:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Welcome to APC! I hope someone with the necessary knowledge will answer your question soon. I don't have it.
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I had a mild ich breakout in the past, it started as one or two pure white dots and increased in numbers over few days and impacted several fish.

I also noticed a white dot on just one fish once in a while, but this did not spread further - I suspect that it might have been physical damage. It disappeared on its own.

If number of dots on your fish increase in the coming days, it is probably a disease and should be cured. There are various methods, I find Esha Exit medication the best - it kills all stages of the parasite at once, doesn't have adverse effects on any kind of livestock or plants, doesn't need water change before or after the treatment and is really effective. The only downside is that it can stain some materials in the tank with blue-green color (my white heating cable turned green, but white pumice (?) decoration is still white..). Unfortunately you might find it hard to come by outside of Europe, but maybe there is similar product available in the US. The ingredients in it are Ethacridine lactate 6.3mg, Malachite green oxalate 0.31mg, Methylene blue 3.98mg, quantities per ml of medication solution (source).

About the water parameters reading - are you sure that even Nitrates are at zero? Technically it's of course feasible, but I would say that not that common in a low tech tank. "Almost zero" is probably more usual
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Nitrate test kits can give a very wrong reading if the directions about shaking the bottles isn't followed without fudging. As I recall, when I had a problem, it read zero all the time.
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Nitrate test kits can give a very wrong reading if the directions about shaking the bottles isn't followed without fudging. As I recall, when I had a problem, it read zero all the time.
I checked yesterday and it was at 20ppm.

But I have a new issue... just saw this today as I recorded the fish. Are those parasites hanging off the underside of its belly?

https://youtu.be/rrilmoc8P4M
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The white spot on the fin is NOT ich. Cant tell what it is; maybe just an injury healing. The video is not sharp enough to see intestinal worms. Do an image search for Camallanus and see if it looks like what your fish has. Or, find a camera that lets you zoom in closer. Camallanus infection takes a long time to treat, with Levamisole, Fenbendazole or Flubendazole.

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The white spot on the fin is NOT ich. Cant tell what it is; maybe just an injury healing. The video is not sharp enough to see intestinal worms. Do an image search for Camallanus and see if it looks like what your fish has. Or, find a camera that lets you zoom in closer. Camallanus infection takes a long time to treat, with Levamisole, Fenbendazole or Flubendazole.
Thanks for the response, but I think I was just being paranoid. All the stuff on its belly is now gone and I believe the marks I saw were simply normal natural markings. Thank you for the response, though.
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