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Old 02-03-2020, 12:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Default Re: Unexpected Fish: Can they hitch a ride on purchased plants?

Yes. Side to side rapid wiggling
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Old 02-03-2020, 03:33 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Could be a leech. Not all are parasitic but couldn't hurt to fish the guy out.
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Old 02-03-2020, 06:25 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I think I need to nuke this tank. There are more of them and now the glass and wood are covered with little pink nodules that have little hairs swirling out of them.
Now there are hundreds of thousands of both the detritus and what appear to be hydra.
Ive learned my lesson about cleaning new plants in peroxide and quarantining them, first.

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I've only had snails hitch a ride with plants, never anything else like what you have there. What is the process of using peroxide with plants to disinfect them, and are you using the 2% or 20% peroxide?

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Default Re: Unexpected Fish: Can they hitch a ride on purchased plants?

In your original post you mention there are no fish in the tank, and that you do not intend to put fish in the tank for a while.

I might argue to let it run it's course. The concern with hitchhikers on plants is primarily centered around parasites and nasties that will harm your fish. But, by and large, parasites and nasties without fish hosts will die out within a couple weeks.

You don't mention if this is a sterile high-tech planted tank or a natural low-tech (Walstad) style tank. If the latter, I don't know of any way to keep beneficial creatures out of it. You will eventually end up with detritus worms, seed shrimp, and random pond life once the tank is mature. I don't know how they get in there, but they do. And by and large, you don't care, since they are all part of a healthy life cycle and natural filter.

So, I guess my thoughts are, bad things will die if there are no fish, and good things are going to show up anyway. So, if no fish, maybe just let it work itself out.

Good luck.
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I removed it from the tank as it really fit descriptions Id seen of a very active, wiggling Nematode.
Ill watch for more but Ive only seen the one. He was just too tiny and infrequent to photograph.
I think I learned a lesson about cleaning new plants with peroxide, first.
I always quarantine both plants and fish using the same water from the tank they will eventually be in. Sometimes fish and plants are infected and then the entire home tank won't become infected. I've never used bleach. Some plants are just too sensitive.


I have used Alum (less toxic) and it's found in grocery stores. (Old School, raised fish since the 50's and Dr. Innes books). Back then I would set up a tank slowly, over months letting bio bugs develope naturally and adding plants so slowly so all would equalize. No heaters and filters back then like there are now.


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I have tried all of the various dips and find them to be ineffective at best; sometimes I have lost plants with more sensitive leaves and stems as a result of using some of the dips listed below. I have not found any of them to be effective against snail eggs and prevention of their hatching.

This last year I have gone to quarantining plants for 3-4 weeks (depending upon temperature). I add 4 drops of Seachem Cupramine per quart of water to the quarantine container. If I see baby snails have hatched during the quarantine period I re-dose wait another 2 weeks. Because Cupramine is copper based I rinse the plants before adding them to my tanks. If I kept freshwater shrimp or valuable invertebrates I would not do the copper treatment because they are very sensitive to copper. All of my tanks are snail free and have been for almost 5 years.
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Default Re: Unexpected Fish: Can they hitch a ride on purchased plants?

I agree with Codnodder. Before you take any action, wait to see what happens. It might be
interesting.

When I set up a tank without fish but with plants, I always see new creatures, even though the plants are all home grown. I see snails, shrimp-like animals tiny things swimming around, worms, and other little animals. They or their ancestors survived the predations of the fish in the tank where the plants grew.

I find these unexpected guests very interesting. They rately do any harm. Instead of using chemicals to get rid of them if you choose to, maybe just add a few fish.

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