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Old 09-13-2005, 11:41 AM   #11 (permalink)
 
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yeah it's sturdy, did i mention i bolted it to the wall??
Is that so the tanks will keep the wall from blowing away in the next tornado? I know people sometimes do this in California, but their reasons are different.


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Old 09-13-2005, 12:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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Is that so the tanks will keep the wall from blowing away in the next tornado?
lol i actually did it because the rack is only 12" wide, and with all that height, it just made me feel better bolting it in.

max, you are correct, i didn't think about it when i measured, and had to take one of them out. i think to solve the problem, the tank that goes in that upper right part will be an emersed tank, so it will weigh much much less if i do put a heavy tank in that spot, i will probably run another 2x4 from front to back to help hold the shelf. but man, this thing is sturdy, and i doubt it would be needed, still thanks for the heads up.

thanks for all of the comments guys, i really appreciate it.
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Old 09-13-2005, 01:08 PM   #13 (permalink)
 
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here is an updated pic of my rack with the tanks planted and the lights on:



here is the tank on the right, it's my shrimp tank. it is also mildly aquascaped.

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Old 09-13-2005, 05:22 PM   #14 (permalink)
 
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For what it's worth, you can worry too much about support when you build stands. If you put in too much the whole assembly gets bulky and difficult to work around.

I have a rack setup with a 20 gallon long on the bottom and two 10's side-by-side on top. The two tens sit on a 3 1/2' span of two 2x4's. The rack is now about 17 years old. It sags in the middle slightly, but that probably has more to do with a cross-joint in the middle of the span than it does with the strength of the span itself.

I will echo earlier comments about tanks near the floor level. I had two setups with tanks that sit just a few inches off the floor. It's really hard to get much enjoyment out of those tanks. It took a while but I finally took down one of those over-and-under setups and gave the tanks and racks to my two older daughters. The other setup will go too, as soon as I have a 40 gallon setup to move things into.


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Old 09-14-2005, 02:37 AM   #15 (permalink)
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If you are worried about the strength of the right side just add a space block (4x2) between the support legs at the shelf height then glue & screw a 12-17mm ply sheet to the sides, top & bottom this will work as a rim board & transfer the load to the floor.
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Old 09-16-2005, 04:48 AM   #16 (permalink)
 
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For what it's worth, you can worry too much about support when you build stands. If you put in too much the whole assembly gets bulky and difficult to work around.

i agree with you 100% roger. and, i think that this assembly has enough support. as for the tanks being so low to the ground, i havn't had any problems with that yet, and i usually just sit in the floor to watch my tanks down there.

buz, i am not really worried about the stability at this time, but i will keep that in mind if i do see any sagging over time.

thanks guys!
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that looks good Russ. I also don't have a problem with tanks that low. My tank in Japan was only about 10" of the floor. It makes maintainance easy, as you don't have to keep reaching down to the ground to pick something up! Its right beside you!

The only thing i would be worried about with your shelves, is vertical access. I'm sure you thought about it before you built it, but doesn't that shelf get in the way, when you're tackling those hard-to-reach places in the lower tanks?

Can't wait to see the unit with completed tanks. Your glosso looks good.

Obviously married life is treating you well!
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Old 09-29-2005, 01:49 AM   #18 (permalink)
 
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I realize that this is a tardy opinion, but for what it's worth: I have had great sucess with adjustable wire shelving for application where I want to get tanks stacked in a tight spot. You can buy shelving that will hold 500 lbs per shelf.
There are several advantages to this shelving: 1) It is adjustable so you can move shelves around to suit your current needs. 2) The wire shelving makes mounting lights and getting wires out of the way easy since you can just twist tie stuff to the actual unit. 3) there is no rot! 4) They are cheap.

You can often buy these units at Home Depot but they are also sold online.

To be honest, I like the look of your wood shelving more, but for those primarily interested with utility, the wire shelving is great.
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It looks sturdy, Russell!

I agree that too much can get to be TOO much. I learned that recently when buying a secondhand aquarium and home-made stand. At first, looking it over, I thought "great" because each end was back to back 2x4's, on end, so that there were 8 of them, "stacked" vertically. The rest of the construction was just as robust. I was SO enthused..... until I went to lift it. I had to scrap my plans to do it myself with friends and an SUV.... I scrambled to hire two hefty guys with a cargo van. Even then, there were moments I thought that moving it to my place was simply not going to happen. Nada. A cosmically mandated "No-Go". Now the thing is waiting in my garage, and I have doubts about moving it into my dining room/fish nook area. Seriously, with all that lumber, plus water, substrate and rocks, I want to figure out what the load on the floor will be. I just bought this little townhouse condo, and if a 65-gallon aquarium with its mongo heavy stand falls through the 1st floor into the basement, I'm gonna have a big problem, LOL!

So, I have had an awakening to the "too much of a good thing" concept. Were I to build an aquarium cabinet myself, I would definitely practice moderation, unlike the thorough, but perhaps overly cautious person who built this cabinet.

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Old 10-15-2005, 07:38 AM   #20 (permalink)
 
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thanks for the comments guys.

noah: i wanted to get some shelving like you mentioned, but i couldn't find any, and i guessed that they would cost more than the 50 dollars i spent on my wood and screws. another thing about building my own shelves is that it gives me a sense of accomplishment. i don't get a chance to do many DIY projects since i'm in college.

Jane: i'm sorry to hear about your bulky stand, but at least you know it's sturdy. so far my stand hasn't sagged any, so i'm keeping my fingers crossed.

as for the tanks, the tank on the right is doing great. i love the 28 watt coralife lighting i am using on it. the glosso is staying low, and it looks pretty good. as for the right tank, i'm really disappointed with the lighting. i'm using 2x10 watt screw in CF bulbs. they don't have any reflectors, and the black hood is just sucking up all of the extra light. i am looking into buying another coralife hood as soon as i can.

both tanks are becoming filled with cherry shrimp. i just took 17 adult shrimp out of the tank on the left, and i'm guessing that there are at least 50 left. the tank on the right only has 10 shrimp, but it has 4 pregnant females, so things are looking up.
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