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Old 03-09-2006, 07:22 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Like the title says this is a 5.5g with a 10g sump. I had a vision one night and this is what sprung up.

Main tank is 5.5g custom built for a nano reef I use to have.
Light is 31 watts PC
Inhabitants are ghost shrimp, and flower shrimp, and Malaysian trumpet snails for the sand.
Substrate is sand I brought back from the west coast of Vancouver Island.
Plants Alternanthera, Sagittaria subulata, and some Java moss on the drift wood.

The sump is 10g
Light is 60watts halogen, (yes I said halogen.) There is a story behind that.
Plants Java moss, and a mystery plant that came out of my 90g. I'm not too sure what it is. There are 2 fair sized pieces of bog wood for the java moss to attach to.

Equipment is 1 heater, a co2 set up by Hagen, and that is it.
No mechanical filtration, water changes once a week, and I add Tropica master grow at water changes.

The tank has been running for about a month now.


Now the reason I am using halogens over the sump is, I use 2 150watt halogens over my 90g. That tank has been running with the halogens for over a year now and I have had allot of success with the plants since I started.

So I would love to hear opinions and any comments that you all may have.


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Nice set-up. Is there some saftey on the return line to prevent shrimp going through? How many GPH go through the main?

I've been running something similar for about a year and a half. So, fwiw, some suggestions:

Sealing the sump and/or limiting the waterfall with the bubble trap will limit CO2 gas-off.

You are injecting CO2 into the return line? You can still keep the Hagen on its cradle on the sump and prevent back siphon.

You can keep pH and O2/CO2 levels pretty consistent by running reverse photoperiods in the two tanks. Nutrient uptake is relatively high with this method, but neat.

Why not light the sump with screw-in CFL or NO flourescent to cut operating cost and heat? During the summer, keeping temp low can be a challenge, and as you know java moss does not need much light.

I used to have my drain as you have, but keeping it unclogged and quiet became a big PITA. Switching to a Durso standpipe and windowscreen as a prefilter, and just letting shrimp go to and breed in the sump, was much better for me. I wrap hydrocotyle sp. around the main tank's piping to hide it.

Isn't your heater and thermometer too high?

Look forward to updates.
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That's the biggest looking hood I ever seen for a nano! It looks well made!

Looks like a good start. The moss on the driftwood is a nice touch. Given time, it'll fill in very nicely.

I would love to see another thread on your 90 gallon setup in the future.

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I would put some more plants in there...maybe some low plant in front of the driftwood.

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czado The main tank has I believe about 50gph flowing through it. The pump is rated for about 150gph but with the head presure it brings it down to 50gph. There is a strainer on the down pipe that keeps the shrimp from flowing down with the water. So far it seems to be working. But if some of them make it down I'm not overly concerned, if its the ghost shrimp. The flower shrimp are a bit bigger so they should be ok.

I still have to lower the down pipe to keep it from bubbling too much. Right now the CO2 is being injected with a ladder in to the main part of the sump.
I was thinking of running it in to the pump but wouldn't that force water in to the canister???

I thought about lighting the sump with regular CF or PC lights but, I've been having luck with the halogens over my 90 and I thought I would see what would happen, in the sump.
The heat isn't that bad, I only keep the sump lights on for about 7.5 hours during the day. I tried having my sump lights on with my nano reef and we had trouble sleeping so I had to put a end to it. We have to keep the bedroom door open or we cook at night.


With the heater its not a submersible one, its just below it's water line. The angle of the pic makes it look like its too high. The thermometer is a digital. The probe is in the return side of the sump.

Thanks John N, I had that built for my nano reef, but this is the result of me thinking one night. The hood has 2 fans built into the side. The guy that built it, also builds custom aquarium stands and displays. His work is amazing. I do have a post for my 90 in the Aquascaping section. There are some pics in there also. Please check it out and let me know what you think.

milalic , I've been thinking of some thing for that side of the tank, but I don't want it to grow too tall. If any thing I want some thing that would only grow a no more than a inch tall. I have heard of a form of moss that would only do that but I cant remember what the name is, or where I saw it.

Thanks for the comments and questions, please keep them coming.
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I was thinking of running it in to the pump but wouldn't that force water in to the canister???
As long as the canister is outputting gas you're okay, but a check valve provides saftey. Injecting into the retun line (immediately after my Mag) is as effective as a forced reactor in my set-up, fwiw.
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So its been a little while since I last updated this thread. So here goes.
Lately I have been having this problem with algae. It only seems to be growing in 1 spot in the tank and its only on this plant.
Here's a pic.

I have posted this in the Algae specific section and I'm not convinced that its all in the micro nurturance factor.
So this is my new plan, the lights that are over my tank right now are 31w PC's, the lights over my sump are 60w halogens. So I'm going to pick up another set of the halogens and install them in the hood. And see what happens.
The reason I am saying that I don't believe its a Micro nutrient factor is that this algae is only in the upper tank. And the plants in the sump are doing much better then the display.

Any thoughts????? Please share.


I will post a new full tank shot some time this weekend, after I get my new lights.
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So new lights went in nearly 2 weeks ago now, and algae is almost all gone. Here is a full tank shot today. All comments and sugestions are welcome.

Oh there have been some changes to inhabitants I have decided to use the sump and the display as a breeding tank for guppys. Basicly my aro and gar need food. Cheap and easy and well home bred so I know they are disese free.
Iam still keeping ghost shrimp in both sump and display, I did have 3 cherry shrimp but I am not sure what happend to them. They might still be in there some where.
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