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Old 01-10-2007, 10:43 AM   #11 (permalink)
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So with the rinsing of the flourite you'll get the heavy stuff? I just picture all of it running through the strainer...

I just called my water dept to enquire about the water and here is what i got. (All results are on the "raw" water, except pH which is on treated to the house water)

pH - 7.0 - 8.0 After treatment. Raw it's about 5.3
KH - 35.7milligrams per liter (he said it was soft)
GH - i didnt get one number he broke all the components down
magnesium - 2.71milligrams per liter
manganese - 0.021milligrams per liter
iron - .01milligrams per liter
calcium - 9.82milligrams per liter

Now to me, it seems everything is pretty low... Which would say i need to ??? Treat my water? i'm confused. I know i will need a test kit, probably a master test kit, but for now what does this show?

Also, i was poking around ebay looking for lights, and i happend to look up just power compacts and i came across this Full setup including lights Other then the fact it comes with Antic lights as well, (which i dont need) would something like that work? And should i be looking for that many watts?

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Old 01-12-2007, 10:09 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Ok, so i've read most of those guides, and looked into fixtures, and so far, i'm looking at the coralife or the one i posted above. Either way it's going to be a nice expendature, so i'm going to have to hold off shortly. But i will get it!
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:24 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Hi again,

I just noticed you're in R.I. - I used to live in Bristol, south of Providence. If you can, try to come to meetings of the NE APS - New England Aquatic Plant Society. You'll get a lot of good info, as well as a chance to get some plant clippings. Our next meeting will be at Fish Frenzy near Springfield, MA. I know its a bit of a hike for you, but if you are able to make it, its a DEMONSTRATION of a tank setup! Its a week from tomorrow.

Here's the club website:
Mission | New England Aquatic Plant Society

And this is our club's forum here on APC:
https://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...plant-society/

I think the FIRST thing is to decide if you want to go a High Tech or Low Tech route. If budget is a major concern, the low tech methods are certainly cheaper! Your biggest investment will be the lighting and tank itself. Check out the APC forum "El Natural" to learn more about low tech methods. I'm a devotee myself, and think that very, very pleasing results can be obtained using a soil underlayer w/o CO2. I've just done a complete overhaul of my 30 gal, with a topsoil layer covered by Soilmaster Select. BTW, Lesco is a store for those who maintain large grounds such as baseball fields, golf courses, etc. Soilmaster Select is a high fired clay product. Its a bit lighter weight than Flourite until its thoroughly colonized by bacteria, and doesn't have the "pre-packed" bacteria and nutrients of EcoComplete, but with a soil underlayer, I don't need that. The Lesco in Worcester does have the Charcoal color of it. A fellow NE APS member also has access to the Black Beauty blasting sand.

I've gotten good used equipment from Craig's List (I've looked on the Boston and Worcester ones, there's a Providence one too). Many folks get "into" the aquarium hobby, make a big investment in equipment, and then just as quickly get out of it. You'll find a LOT of marine setups for sale, and some folks will want more than 50% of what they paid for the stuff, but if you keep looking, you may find a good setup. Also, the BAS holds auctions at each meeting (the next one is this coming Monday) and the Annual Auction was postponed from last fall, and will probably be held in March. Lots of used equipment gets auctioned off.

I'd say, start with LOTs and LOTs of reading and research. If you choose to go the "El Natural" route, and can position your tank near a window, you may not even need to upgrade the light fixture.

Get an idea of the kinds of methods that are out there, and find one that appeals to you. Low Tech, Moderate Tech w/ DIY CO2, High Tech w/ CO2 and additional ferts, etc.

I agree with the poster who said planning is half the fun!
-Jane

PS - if you can get up to the Worcester area, or near Rt. 146 and the Northbridge "turnpike", I can give you a ride to the NE APS meeting near Springfield. I think it would be a great experience for you to watch the demo.
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Thanks for all the help so far everyone. I have been working on a hood all week and i think when i'm done it'll be a plesent add on to my tank. I'll have pictures of the whole process up when it's finished i think.

But now i have to deal with the soil. I have found jolly gardner brand, but in both composed manuer and top soil (i think it's top soil, i'll recheck). But i assume i dont want the compost because that can cause problems. So how many lbs of this will i need? I can go get it and start to age it asap, so that it's ready soon.

Also, Black Beauty Blasting Sand, is that for the top of the soil? I assume i could use anything here if i did desire? Such as moon sand or the liking. My only question is. What should the total depth be? 1" or 1" of soil and 1" of gravel or equivalant top? Again i've confused myself!
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Ummm ok? So i guess no ideas. humph. Total depth of 2" (1" rock or other top layer, and 1" soil) or 1" (1/2" of each)?? Also when i do the "jar test" what am i looking for?
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Do not put small fish in with cichlids. The smaller fish will either be eaten or be to scared to come out. The pea puffer will be just fine; they are feisty little devils and mine terrorizes my betta.
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Cool, but any advice on the soil as well? I'm going to go get about 5 bags now, and try to lay it out to start to dry and what knot. IDK how big each bag is, but idk i may be buying more. Also another thing that has me bidazzled is do i put rocks on top?? This whole NPT thing isnt as easy as it'd seem.
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Do not put small fish in with cichlids. The smaller fish will either be eaten or be to scared to come out. The pea puffer will be just fine; they are feisty little devils and mine terrorizes my betta.
That totally depends on what the 'Electric Blue Cichlids' are! Don't tar every cichlid with that brush, Pelvicachromis aren't going to polish off his danios and if he's keeps shell dwellers, the danios may well grow bigger than them!

However having said that, what's usually known as 'Electric Blue Cichlids' over here are Sciaenochromis (Formally Haplochromis) ahli. They are mouthbreeders from Lake Malawi and not a good idea with Danios. They should ideally be kept in a large tank with other mouthbrooders of similar temperaments. You'll also need to make sure the water stays alkaline with minimal pollutants or they will die quickly.
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i brueshed the Cichlid's off early on. I believe Jane gave me the advice that if i were to ever get shrimp, they would be a very quick and tastey treat to a cichlid if it ever decided to get to the point. So that's out. Now it's going to be mostly "cool fish" you know... i'm just not sure what so much.

But before i do anything the substrate has to be put in... NPT'ers out there, help!
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Most Electric Blue Cichlids get big enough to eat danios and I will grant you some don't but getting one from a LFS doesn't guarantee that it will be a small variety. And someone new to the fish so be forewarned about the possible buffet awaiting it. I'm not brushing them off so soon. I plan to get a German Blue Ram and add it to a tank with a few danios.
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