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Old 11-08-2012, 02:00 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Here are some update pics. In this first one I try to capture the growth pattern of the stem itself...coming nearly straight up to a point, jolting out sideways, with the tip always facing upward.



In this next photo, I want to show the difference between planting tops, and keeping the cut bottoms. The far left corner with the smaller/younget plants "C" are the bottoms that were cut VERY HARD. I thought these would die honestly...but they are popping up nicely. The mid-back plants "C", to the back/right of the photo, are the tops that were planted. The very front plants "C" are tops and were very small cuttings. And, just so not to confuse anyone...plant "A" is a Polygonum (plain ol' vanilla...don't get excited) and plant "B" is what I believe some have had before that MIGHT be L. palustris, or a hybrid of it...and I have never been successful with thisone for very long. It's only in there to show the difference between growth pattern and leaf shape...it does not persist long under water. (Anyone confused yet? )



And finally, just a plain ol shot from the top, looking down, and the same plants from the front of the tank looking in.



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Old 11-13-2012, 06:45 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I can see some obvious growth over teh long weekend since the above pics were taken. Pretty much the same in height overall, but spreading out more. I have a feeling we've got a true mid-ground plant here.

I believe we were able to get it into a couple more sets of hands recently so we'll get some more opinions in the coming weeks. My opinion is that it would best be used as a midground plant being used to draw attention to a particular focal point...and a dark one at that. The contrast it has to my red crypt is just...well...contrasting. I planted in the back of my tank, but I think it should have been placed a bit further up and around the crypt to really make the crypt "pop". I may do this soon...or may just wait for someone else to do it and show us how it looks.
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Old 11-13-2012, 05:31 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Dave....is it ok to post our photos here, or would you prefer that we do our own separate posts. You know, for hand-sets that may have gotten some. Or a lot.
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Old 11-13-2012, 06:13 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Post here if you don't mind, please...so everyone can see how it looks in different set-ups. I'm really jazzed about finally getting it out to you guys/gals so we can see how it looks in other areas/water hardness/substrates/lighting/etc...

By the way, I just cut the very tips off whatever stems I have to see how well it will branch at the nodes. I want to see if I can get that "bush" effect that Kevin was able to get on his...though I don't think he tipped his off to get that...it just kinda started bunching out.

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Old 11-30-2012, 01:21 PM   #25 (permalink)
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It's been jut over 2 weeks since my last update. I cut the tips off most of the pieces and they are now sprouting at the nodes...and begining to thicken up. I'm really surprised though. This stem is huge as stems go...but even in my little 15 gal tank it doesn't overwhelm the scape. In fact, most of it is hidden by the Blyxa I planted among it. I thought that the Blyxa would add a touch of variance to the Ludwigia. But the opposite has occured...the Ludwigia stays very low, but with upturned and large leaves, and is adding variance to the Blyxa. This could very well be a foreground plant in the right size tank with a proper scape tto incorporate different textures. Pics in a bit...
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Old 11-30-2012, 01:40 PM   #26 (permalink)
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So, click the thumbnail and here's what you should be seeign if I did it right:

In the very far back you'll see a thick stem...a testament to the size of the plant and to it's horizontal growth pattern. Poking up through the Anubias you'll see small tip poking through as the plant crawls around. Behind and around the Blyxa (the one in the middle of teh photo) you'll see leaves of various sizes/ages of the Ludwigia and should be able to make out some verticle stems which are very young...the tips of those just now beginning to curve over horizontally. In the front of the tank (hard to make out due to my "photo-skills") a couple larger stems growing from the mid-ground to the foreground. In the back left corner...several young shoots kinda doing their own thing.
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Well, first off: your tank is amazing!!

I haven't seen this quite yet, though mine may need more time to adapt to my water and tank conditions before I can accurately gauge the growth pattern. Plants in my tank seem to take an abnormally long amount of time to adapt to my certain conditions; once they do, though, it's like magic!!!

For the record, mine is still very bright green....it just looks like green-colored 'grandulosa' mostly. Started to develop aerial roots, which I would expect. Very pretty plant. Doesn't seem to get very tall at all, which is nice!
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Wow...tell me these two guys don't belong together?! It's a match made in heaven!
Blyxa + the "glandulex" =



Here's a shot from a top/angle to show where it has popped up amongst the Crypt, etc...



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Default Re: Ludwigia glandulosa x palustris

Great thread, Dave!

And, just to toss a thought in here, the colorful, upright growing one that the AzKid (?) friend of yours had the pict of on the other site.... might be the "other" cross (i.e., L. palustris x glandulosa). The "Seed", or Female parent is usually listed first, and the "Pollen", or Male parent is listed second. So, plant L. g x p, and L. p x g can be very different, because the combination of the genes can result in a different configuration.

From begonia culture (my other hobby), I know MANY cultivars which are "siblings", and are quite different. Also, with any hybrid, natural or otherwise, even the same cross (for example, L. g x p) can yield multiple plants, which vary slightly in terms of coloration, growth pattern (upright, prostrate, readily-branching, non-branching, etc.). So, all these variations which folks are mentioning may be a result of the source of the cross.

What's more interesting (IMO) is the variation you're seeing within your tank, with the tops or trimmed subjects. I wonder if this could be just an artifact of how long the plant has been grown submerged? I'll be interested to see if the "stumps" of the ones you trimmed also get larger leaf growth as they get closer to the water surface (like the tops you trimmed & re-planted).

Fun discussion!
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And PS - yeah, it is a VERY pretty sight next to the Bylxa! Hubba Hubba!

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Old 12-23-2012, 11:27 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Default Re: Ludwigia glandulosa x palustris

Another Question, Dave:

in your picture from post #26, what is the VERY dark crypt there on the right side of the image? Its stunning.
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