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Old 03-28-2018, 06:21 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Few weeks since I posted. Still trying to narrow down my issues.
Ph around 6.8 to 7.0
temp 77F
KH 4
GH 11

trying to get some clear pics. Appreciate your help.
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What are you asking for? I read the original post and thought you were going to add more to it later.
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apologize if I am not communicating correctly. I am trying to narrow down what my tank is deficient in to have my plants healthy. I have symptoms in my crypt and posted more pics to help narrow down the issue. I have also started dosing 1 capful twice a week of seachem flourish.
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The needs of the plants depends on how much light you have, as well as what plants you have. Let's look at light first: What light fixture, what brand, a link to the specific light, etc. do you have? And, what size tank, what dimensions, do you have? With that we have a chance to guess how much PAR you are getting from the light, and from that we can guess if you have high light, where all of the nutrients and CO2 are critical, or low light, where you can get by with a lot of shortages, or something in the middle.

Just looking at plants isn't a good way to figure out what might be missing.
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40 gallon breeder and my Co2 stays light green
Light: Radion Gen1 w/TIR Lenses (Below for leds on it) Currently light is running at 70% with 6.5k to 7.5K @ 10hrs.
Light is 26 1/2" above the substrate, 12" above the water line.
According to a par chart for my light at the substrate, I should be getting 88 par.

below is an example where the highest points are 70% output, the lowest at 0%


I was running the LEDs at 60% but noticed my background fast growing oak plants leaving pointing upward like tey were begging for light. I have also had many of my stem plants loose their leaves towards the bottom.

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Flourish is basically just a trace element mix. With that much light you need to be dosing nitrates, phosphates, and potassium, as well as the trace element mix. I suggest you start dosing per the tables in https://www.aquaticplantcentral.com/f...ing-guide.html That will let you see if having more than enough of all of the nutrients lets the plants grow well. Once you do that, you can start to reduce the dosages a bit to find out what the minimum dosage to maintain good growth is.

You can also try slightly increasing the CO2 bubble rate, to see if that helps without causing distress for the fish.
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The flourish is what I was dosing on the CSMB days. This is what I was dosing added to that.
1/16 tsp CSM+B = Mon Wed Fri with a capful of flourish twice a week

1/4 tsp KNO3
1/16 tsp KH2PO4 = Tue Thur Sat
1/16 tsp K2SO4

I tested my GH again yesterday before a water change and got 8 GH
TDS around 360

After still seeing holes in the leaves and some of the plants melting I started to dose this
1/8 tsp CSM+B MWF

1/2 tsp KNO3
1/8 tsp KH2PO4 TTS
1/8 tsp K2SO4
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Pics from last night. GH7 KH3 PH6.8-7.0 temp was at 77 I just dropped it closer to 75
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What is in your drop checker? Is it 4 dKH water? Did you make the 4 dKH water or did you get it from someone?

I'm asking because you have a lot of black brush algae on the wood in your tank, which can indicate that you don't have enough CO2 in the water. Usually when you have a low KH and adequate CO2 the pH will be below what yours is. With that much BBA you almost have to remove the wood and clean it/kill the algae outside of the tank.
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