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Old 06-17-2009, 07:07 AM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Hi Zapins

I was wondering how often you check on the plants after you've closed up the big container. I'm guessing it's sealed just about air tight? Secondly, would the plants grow any faster if you add any ferts to the water you use initially? Could you leave the container in the sun outside (assuming you have a clear lid)?

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Old 06-17-2009, 09:21 AM   #12 (permalink)
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It depends when I check on them. Sometimes I check them every day, because I'm checking for flowers, other times I don't check them for months at a time. They don't really need much care after they are set up.

The container isn't sealed super tightly, I just put the plastic lid back on, I didn't do any extra sealing on top of that. Plants need to exchange gases with the atmosphere or they will run out of O2 or CO2.

About fertilizing: the plants won't grow faster with more ferts added to the water. The black top soil contains more ferts than the plants could ever use. It will last for several years without running out of fertilizers. The only way to make the plants grow faster would be to increase the CO2 levels inside the container to roughly 2.5x the normal atmospheric concentrations but not higher, this might be a bit tricky though to control. Even doing this isn't necessary since natural concentrations in water of CO2 are roughly 3 ppm and in the air it is +350 ppm so the plants are definitely getting plenty of CO2.

You can leave the container outside, but you must be very careful that it doesn't overheat. Most aquatic plants can't handle more than 85 F without dying so direct sunlight all day + black topsoil absorbing all that heat and a container that acts as a greenhouse = hard to control temperatures. You might need to put the tub in a place where it gets indirect light for 95% of the day and maybe an hour of direct light in the morning or night. My friend grew HC in this way, so they get plenty of light.
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This is one great thread.
i will keep at least 1 stem for emersed growth when i get rarer plants, so that i have a little factory to better fill my tank, and to have some to spare in case they dont do too well at first.

I have done this before with Hydrocotyle Verticilliata and HC. Verticilliata did great, but HC kinda failed because i kept it outside, the tub didn't have good drainage and i didnt really pay much attention to it, so when it rained it would end up drowned for a while...

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Im growing HC also ... Ill put some pics on a week so we cak check the procces of growing
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That's a great idea! Post your emersed tub pics in this thread! I'd love to see your setups!
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This is a GREAT idea. At one time i had two emersed tubs going that i simply put soil and water into... but the plants never did all that well, and now im thinking it was because they were to wet and soggy. Using shoe box containers inside of a larger tub with just a few inches is brilliant! keeps things soaked on the bottom and just a but moist on top im guessing? Im looking forward to putting a new set up together now
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This is a GREAT idea. At one time i had two emersed tubs going that i simply put soil and water into... but the plants never did all that well, and now im thinking it was because they were to wet and soggy. Using shoe box containers inside of a larger tub with just a few inches is brilliant! keeps things soaked on the bottom and just a but moist on top im guessing? Im looking forward to putting a new set up together now
Yup, exactly! Also, being inside a large container helps keep the humidity high enough to convert most plants from the very weak and susceptible submersed form to the emersed form without drying them out.

I'd love to see pictures of your new set up! Show us some before pics and then in a few weeks you could post the after pics!

I'll post an update of my setups when I get home later tonight so everyone can see some examples.

I've actually got about 67 different types of plants now in my tubs and fish tanks, though most of them are safely housed in the emersed tubs for future use.
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Awesome idea Zapins. Here is mine.



I just have some scraps in there to start, but it will be great as my collection grows and it gives me a place to grow out my cuttings.

I had a 55 gallon tank with a broken center brace that was just sitting empty that I used. I used a 48" single strip light with a T12 6700 bulb (do you think that will be enough light) that I already had. I didn't have a top so I cut up some old fish bags and taped them together. I laid them across the top of the tank. It isn't air tight, but the condensation on the glass tells me it is keeping the humidity up.

I'm excited.
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Nice work!!! That will work just fine. You could add another light in time if you like, more light never hurts!

You might want to watch your humidity levels though since after the plants convert to emersed form excess humidity might cause them to rot. Rotting happens if the condensation drips onto the plant leaves continually. So perhaps with time you might want to remove some of the plastic on the top after the plants have converted.

Here are some of my current emersed tubs!







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