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Steven_Chong 09-09-2010 06:09 AM

Road trip to Hakkai mountain! (Search for Hakkai stones!)
 
It has been a long time since I actually worked on putting a tank together. Simply put, between going back and forth between Japan and home for school/work and eventually moving back to Japan for my new job-- I've been busy, and totally unable to put together the 3 months in 1 place needed for a layout. But, I've recently started back on one! And it's starting off with a real adventure!

For anyone who has looked at an ADA magazine, book or catalogue, you probably know these rocks:

http://www.adgshop.com/v/vspfiles/as...p2010final.jpg

These stones are called Hakkai-Seki 八海石, and it comes from Hakkai mountain in Niigata prefecture (yes, the same prefecture as the the ADA Headquarters and Gallery). It also happens to be where I call home now.

Now if you have ever looked into getting your hands on Hakkai seki, you know it is . . . near impossible. Even if you scour bonsai and aquarium stores throughout Tokyo, you simply will not find it . . . well, it would be extremely rare, I've tried. At the last IAPLC, Jeff Senske also told me about some crazy adventures about getting the chance to pick from Amano's private stash (lucky bastard, but he's definitely earned it!).

Stories . . . involving huntind down and shipping Amano a rare $2000+ aerobics machine made only in the states . . . and stuff . . . wow Amano . . . that man is crazy . . .

. . . but I might be equally crazy.

Knowing the rarity of this stone, while arranging a tank shipment with ADA vender Seventh Heavens in Joetsu, I asked the shop owner on a whim-- is there anyway to get your hands on Hakkai stone? He gave me a laugh . . . a very long laugh . . . before we actually got down to talking. He smiled. I busted out a detailed map of niigata prefecture and he busted out a highlighter.

http://a.imageshack.us/img521/9329/hakkaitrip1.jpg

The next day I started the 2 hour drive on route 291 heading for Uonuma City and Hakkai Mountain, burning rubber at Japan's 46 MPH speed limit (which is about all my little "K-Car" can manage for a long period anyway). After a nice long drive, head banging to some tunes and taking in the beautiful scenery of Niigata's countryside (rice fields, rice fields and more rice fields-- that's what they're known for), I finally got to route 265. 265 heads up into the mountains and it gets more and more beautiful-- and it finally reaches a stretch where, according to my source "there is a small chance of finding a few nice Hakkai Seki."


http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1198/hakkaitrip8.jpg

As I drove up the winding road into the Hakkai mountain range, I reached what I thought must be the "secret stretch." Below, there was a fast flowing stream chock full of rocks that could be seen through the thick forest. I decided to park and hike down to it.

http://a.imageshack.us/img840/2887/hakkaitrip2.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img203/4555/hakkaitrip3.jpg

I watched my car disappear into the background as I descended through the brush and forest to reach the stream bed. Finally, I freed myself from the forest after climbing down a 3 meter stretch of sheer drop. I sprinted out of the brush and gawked at the stunning sight before me.

http://a.imageshack.us/img638/7660/hakkaitrip4.jpg

Now if only I was a better photographer!

To say the least, the scene before me was stunning. Hakkai Mountain's range rising into the distance, thick green forest, and the stream-- utterly stunning!

http://a.imageshack.us/img192/6884/hakkaitrip5.jpg

The water was crystal clear. If there were rocks to be had at the bottom, I could even see them from my the top. If it's rocks you wanted to see-- there were plenty! The place was full of inspiration for iwagumi, even if you weren't there specifically to collect rocks. I guess good rocks come from beautiful places though!

After running around like a maniac for awhile taking photos, I stripped down to my board shorts and reef walkers; with a bucket in one hand and a long net in the other, I ran off to enjoy an afternoon of swimming, netting Medaka (common grey Japanese Rice Killifish), and of course-- hunting for the rare hakkai seki!

http://a.imageshack.us/img823/2008/hakkaitrip6.jpg

After only 15 minutes, I found what looked to me, like a very good sign:

http://a.imageshack.us/img833/3343/hakkaitrip7.jpg

. . . though that one was way WAY too big for me to take. If anyone has a 100g tank, a ticket to Japan, and a forklift, tell me and I'll show you where it is. That rock will definitely still be there. I though, needed to go for smaller.

I hiked long and hard, searching the stream edge as well as diving into deeper ends of the stream to look at the stream bed (no mud, all rocks).

Finally, I put together what looked like a decent set of rocks. I picked out 3 that I wanted to take (really, I couldn't find much, and then few that looked nice-- they really are rare!) and prepared to take them home.

. . . this, was no easy feat. My main rock was ~80 lbs, and it was a long hike back to the car! I had climbed down from my car at an angle and then doubled-back down the river to look for rocks, so it would be a 200 yard walk back to where I had descended from the forest, and then a longer hike back to the car!

. . . That was not the biggest problem? Remember how I mentioned there was a 3 meter drop between the forest and the bottom of the ravine? That was the easiest point to get back to the forest. 3 meters is nothing for an average person to climb up or down, especially with roots and branches to hang onto with his hands.

. . . with his hands . . . you know, the hands I needed to use to life that 80 lbs rock with?

. . . hah . . . hah . . . hahaha . . . lol

. . . 3 hours of hiking and lifting the likes of which I never have (and never will again) experienced, I lifted the main stone into the trunk of my car, and howled a crazed cry of victory!~!

meow!!! lol


Now let's back track. Before I show you pictures of the prize, let me show you some other nice photos:

http://a.imageshack.us/img822/2262/60x45box.jpg

I love you Kuro-Neko delivery service! <3 Seventh Heavens sent me my new Do!Aqua 60x45x45 Cube Glass Aquarium, and its stand. Can you believe that in this country, you can pay the delivery man, in cash-- and they will pay the store for you!? It's crazy! Oh the Japanese and their crazy system of trust . . . they're crazy . . . but I'm probably not one to talk.

http://a.imageshack.us/img641/825/60x45.jpg

There she is baby, all waiting for setup. This weekend I will go back to the shop and pickup a Solar II, some extra goodies to refit my ADA CO2 system for a standard Japanese large canister and timer, Aquasoil, and some other goodies I'll need to set this baby up properly. Seventh Heavens also arranged to get together all the plants I wanted. Gotta love Japanese service!


Anyway, without further ado, rock photos:

http://a.imageshack.us/img691/7541/hakkaiseki.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img830/200/hakkaiseki2.jpg

You like? :rock: I'm not sure if this is the genuine Hakkai seki nor if it even if it deserves to be mentioned in the same breadth as the quality stones Amano has-- but I know these rocks are genuinely from Hakkai-san, and that I worked my ass to find and bring them back! Them's also nice rocks.


Also, to me, an almost equally important topping on this cake, a bucket full of grit/rubble from the same stream bed as these rocks:

http://a.imageshack.us/img844/9932/hakkaigrit.jpg

There's sure a mixed bag of rubble in there, but imo rubble genuinely from the location of the rocks you use is incredibly valuable in putting the mid-ground of a tank together. This is a perk that comes with rock hunting as opposed to rock purchasing (although you can skip the ridiculous hike and life-risking stupidity by just shelling out the money for those manten stones).

You can also find some nice stuff in the rubble too sometimes:

http://a.imageshack.us/img641/5903/hakkaipebble.jpg

;)

Will be setting her up this weekend! Please stay tuned!


Oh, and anyone who is planning to come up here for IAPLC, shoot me a contact if you please. ;)

Seattle_Aquarist 09-09-2010 06:27 AM

Re: Road trip to Hakkai mountain! (Search for Hakkai stones!)
 
Hi Steven_Chong,

Excellent narrative; it sounds like you had quite the adventure, probably one you will remember for a long time! BTW, nice rocks!

Tex Gal 09-09-2010 08:11 AM

Re: Road trip to Hakkai mountain! (Search for Hakkai stones!)
 
What an adventure! A hike to find rocks is quite a feat. Too bad you couldn't drive to the stream... but then you wouldn't have had a story to tell. :D I think it's just neat to be going back to all those amazing places.

Looking forward to seeing it put together. I can imagine how excited your are! :D




JapanBlue 09-09-2010 01:33 PM

Re: Road trip to Hakkai mountain! (Search for Hakkai stones!)
 
Simply stunning!

Please shar the ongoing!

chasintrades 09-10-2010 03:04 PM

Re: Road trip to Hakkai mountain! (Search for Hakkai stones!)
 
nice!

FBG 09-10-2010 08:21 PM

Re: Road trip to Hakkai mountain! (Search for Hakkai stones!)
 
I love doing things like that, thanks for documenting your trip and search for these cool rocks, I can't wait to see your tank set up!

Erirku 09-10-2010 09:23 PM

Re: Road trip to Hakkai mountain! (Search for Hakkai stones!)
 
hey steven,
long time no hear! how is japan u lucky buggah!!! ttyl, good job!

Steven_Chong 09-12-2010 05:42 AM

Re: Road trip to Hakkai mountain! (Search for Hakkai stones!)
 
Thanks guys! Hey Erik :D

Also here is a video of the setup. Too lazy to post the actual photos, so I just made it a youtube video. My EHEIM just arrived in the mail today (from my folks back home), but I need to go get some tubing before I set it up. Probably will run the Tetra HOB and the EHEIM for the first few weeks. Otherwise, looking fine. :D

asukawashere 09-12-2010 06:55 AM

Re: Road trip to Hakkai mountain! (Search for Hakkai stones!)
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Steven_Chong (Post 554978)
. . . That was not the biggest problem? Remember how I mentioned there was a 3 meter drop between the forest and the bottom of the ravine? That was the easiest point to get back to the forest. 3 meters is nothing for an average person to climb up or down, especially with roots and branches to hang onto with his hands.

. . . with his hands . . . you know, the hands I needed to use to life that 80 lbs rock with?

. . . hah . . . hah . . . hahaha . . . lol

. . . 3 hours of hiking and lifting the likes of which I never have (and never will again) experienced, I lifted the main stone into the trunk of my car, and howled a crazed cry of victory!~!

LOL! First of all, great story and lovely photos. An idea for you, though - I went rock collecting a few months back on Block Is., RI. The cliffs there are often a heck of a lot more than 3m, and naturally the best rocks come from the beaches with the highest cliffs (b/c fewer people have scoured over them). We solved the problem of needing hands and feet free to climb by putting the rocks we found in backpacks - of course, carrying around a backpack that's half the weight of yourself is no picnic, either, but it did help with negotiating the more treacherous, cliffy areas.

The moral of the story is, I guess, that if you're looking to find your own stuff to put in your aquarium, prepare to be a pack mule - and bring a pack. :mrgreen:

Tex Gal 09-12-2010 07:39 AM

Re: Road trip to Hakkai mountain! (Search for Hakkai stones!)
 
Watched your video. Tank looks good. You need to post a still on here. That way we can take a long look at it, (hard to do with your video). Your moss looks so tight to your wood. How did you do that? Is it just wrapped with thread?





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