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[AaronT]

Originally Posted by [email protected]

Dear Moderator,

I have recently joined APC and made a couple of purchase.

The package in my last purchase seemed lost at destination USPS office.
(The tracking suggests arrival at destination USPS office but was not delivered to me)
Right now, the carrier's supervisor at USPS office is make an inquiry to it.
Since there is no insurance, there is nothing we can do about it.

I, as a buyer, have already paid in full.

Could you tell me who should take responsibility of this lost on the way ?
Buyer or seller or both ?

Right now, I took the lost completely.
Thanks.
cj

Sorry to hear about your troubles. As the rules state APC doesn't mediate sales in any capacity. Your best bet is to try to resolve this peacefully with the seller and use the trader feedback system accordingly.

9. Communicate, communicate, communicate! By simply keeping the other party to the transaction updated on timing and shipping method (i.e., tracking number) most of the problems experienced in transactions could be avoided.

While APC facilitates sales between members, we DO NOT endorse either the buyer or the seller. All disputes must be handled by the parties to the transaction. APC and its staff will not be held liable for anything related to the transaction. APC WILL NOT mediate on behalf of any party to the transaction.

[geneyoonit]

Originally Posted by dennis

You can post that you want to buy(wtb) plants or equipment. A person with less than 25 posts cannot sell only, buying or trading is perfectly acceptable.

Welsome to APC!

ah ic.. i was wondering the same thing... because the rules said "post" :P

possibly changing the rules to "cannot make NEW THREADS" might be a more specific way of avoiding confusion... XD

[shark1505]

So I can buy plants with less than 25? And can someone take me through iTrader?

[ashappard]

yes, you can certainly buy without 25 posts.

itrader :

to the left of a post - in the area where the poster's avatar/post count etc. sits, you will see some text saying 'iTrader Ratings' with a number beside it. Thats the number of feedbacks the user has received. It is also a hyperlink into the itrader system, specific to that user. Click it when you have completed a transaction with a buyer or seller, and you will see another hyperlink saying 'Submit feedback for <username>'. Click that, fill out the form, and submit.

feel free to ask questions if needed, and iTrader can also be used to see how a seller or buyers feedback look before you deal with them.

[Cavan Allen]

Please note that rule #14 includes cameras. It's really stretching it as far as aquarium related and we feel it would be best if they were not offered here.

[ashappard]

group buy policy

after some discussion, we have implemented a group buy policy as rule #15

15. Group Buy Policy :
The group buy is a tool of hobbyists dating back many years as a way for the community to take advantage of lower costs associated with volume purchase. But how to differentiate the group buy from reselling?

Here are APC's guidelines:

In a true group buy, all original purchase information is public. The organizer will publicly inform all takers what the cost is for a given volume and must also identify the source. A link/contact information to the source must be provided for original price confirmation.

The intent of a group buy is not to make a profit, but to share the benefit of volume discount with the community. By making all original purchase information transparent, it is obvious how much is spent and whether profit is being made. Reasonable shipping costs are understandable when distributing the goods to participants, but the idea is to pass on a product without making a profit.

If it is not possible to share this information, then reselling is assumed. In a reselling effort, the upfront cost and source of the product are private. There may or may not be a profit, nobody knows. Any post suspected to be reselling will be treated as such; reselling on APC is for sponsors only. Keep in mind that APC will maintain its neutrality in all sales transactions. Buyer beware, negotiate disputes politely and effectively.